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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 21 9.58am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

A modern day full-back !
He has always been regarded as better coming forward than defending, a 'Charge' laid at the door of Trent Alexander-Arnold amongst others.

PVA has scored 20 PL goals during his time with us and Sunderland, which is admirable for a defender and could be the most PL goals scored by a defender currently playing.


Edited by Willo (06 Apr 2021 9.53am)

Possibly Cahill has more.
There was a comment on Sky recently about a Premier League goalkeeper who is “brilliant...his only problem is shot stopping”.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 06 Apr 21 10.16am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Jefroc

I see Garth Crooks chose Kayoute for his Team of the Week not only saying he was "brilliant" last night but has been for a while! That should upset some Palace fans:-) !!

But picked Allisson in goal just for looking relaxed! Yeah you blind tw@t it's because he had nothing to do. I sometimes wonder if he actually watches the games.

We played similar to last night earlier in the season against Liverpool and Villa and got punished. What we should be doing is playing more like that against lesser opposition and perhaps finding a better balance against the bigger teams. We fully deserved a point but Everton's finishing cost them the three points.

I thought Wilf was too much for them, Eze looked confident and Jairo and Tekkers had some good involvement in the link-up play. Some of the one-touch play would have had the commentators creaming themselves if it had been Liverpool, Man City or Chelsea, but as it was us it was hardly metnioned. PvA got forward well but was awful in possession and wasted opportunities and was a liability at defending; his pace is the one thing we'll miss if he leaves though and his directness. Luka made a really bad mistake again, but in fairness did have a better second half.

Vicente clearly has to get MOTM, but overall it was just really good to see us play some football for more than 5 minutes in a game. It also gives me hope that if we can just make a few shrewd signings then we could even have a chance of cracking the top 10 next season. On a side note, it's amusing to see various articles appearing from whining Everton folk about things ranging from Ward's "elbow" on Digne should have been a penalty, to Ayew made too much of a fuss about having a studs up challenge into his shin. So it seems the Blue side of Liverpool are a bunch of cry babies too

Edited by taylors lovechild (06 Apr 2021 10.17am)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Apr 21 10.18am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Possibly Cahill has more.
There was a comment on Sky recently about a Premier League goalkeeper who is “brilliant...his only problem is shot stopping”.

Indeed he has.Thank you.

Apropos goalkeepers, much more is demanded of them in the modern game.In the old days apart from shot-stopping etc etc they just had to clear their lines,nowadays they have to be good with their feet, need the ability to play out from the back so they now have to make decisions when receiving the ball to feet.
Playing long passes like those we have witnessed from Ederson and Pickford to set up an attack are also part-and-parcel of the modern game.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 21 10.30am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Indeed he has.Thank you.

Apropos goalkeepers, much more is demanded of them in the modern game.In the old days apart from shot-stopping etc etc they just had to clear their lines,nowadays they have to be good with their feet, need the ability to play out from the back so they now have to make decisions when receiving the ball to feet.
Playing long passes like those we have witnessed from Ederson and Pickford to set up an attack are also part-and-parcel of the modern game.

This is true but I’m such a dinosaur that I prefer goalkeepers who can save the ball before worrying about their distribution.

 

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View Melbourne Eagle's Profile Melbourne Eagle Flag Melbourne 06 Apr 21 10.31am Send a Private Message to Melbourne Eagle Add Melbourne Eagle as a friend

Didn't see the match last night. A change of daylight saving at my end and the opposite change at your end meant a 3am weekday kick off for me.

Interested in 2 things:

1 - Not much mention on this thread about Wilf's performance. How was he?
2 - only seen limited highlights but there didn't seem to be a strong reaction from the players when Bats scored. Seemed subdued or did I just missed the good bits?

 

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View Jefroc's Profile Jefroc Flag Crete 06 Apr 21 10.56am Send a Private Message to Jefroc Add Jefroc as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

But picked Allisson in goal just for looking relaxed! Yeah you blind tw@t it's because he had nothing to do. I sometimes wonder if he actually watches the games.

We played similar to last night earlier in the season against Liverpool and Villa and got punished. What we should be doing is playing more like that against lesser opposition and perhaps finding a better balance against the bigger teams. We fully deserved a point but Everton's finishing cost them the three points.

I thought Wilf was too much for them, Eze looked confident and Jairo and Tekkers had some good involvement in the link-up play. Some of the one-touch play would have had the commentators creaming themselves if it had been Liverpool, Man City or Chelsea, but as it was us it was hardly metnioned. PvA got forward well but was awful in possession and wasted opportunities and was a liability at defending; his pace is the one thing we'll miss if he leaves though and his directness. Luka made a really bad mistake again, but in fairness did have a better second half.

Vicente clearly has to get MOTM, but overall it was just really good to see us play some football for more than 5 minutes in a game. It also gives me hope that if we can just make a few shrewd signings then we could even have a chance of cracking the top 10 next season. On a side note, it's amusing to see various articles appearing from whining Everton folk about things ranging from Ward's "elbow" on Digne should have been a penalty, to Ayew made too much of a fuss about having a studs up challenge into his shin. So it seems the Blue side of Liverpool are a bunch of cry babies too

Edited by taylors lovechild (06 Apr 2021 10.17am)


I agree with what you say. Had commentators been watching City,Barca etc their tone would have been quite different. I normally look at Crooks team to see if any Palace players have been included. I missed the match but from highlights, stats and comments a well deserved point. Guiata obviously really good but as Seaman would have said "shot stopping us his job". We are fortunate to have him but he is one of 11 out there - that said he should have been in Crooks' team!

 


Always remembering walking from the Holmesdale to the Whitehorse end at half time!

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 06 Apr 21 12.46pm Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Originally posted by Melbourne Eagle

Didn't see the match last night. A change of daylight saving at my end and the opposite change at your end meant a 3am weekday kick off for me.

Interested in 2 things:

1 - Not much mention on this thread about Wilf's performance. How was he?
2 - only seen limited highlights but there didn't seem to be a strong reaction from the players when Bats scored. Seemed subdued or did I just missed the good bits?

1. Honestly thought Wilf was good, not spectacular but was constantly involved in anything good we did and was a threat throughout.

2. Don't recall it being `cold` but I actually suspect the lack of fans at games for so long now adds to a more subdued atmosphere for players when the celebrate.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Online Flag Midhurst 06 Apr 21 1.00pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This is true but I’m such a dinosaur that I prefer goalkeepers who can save the ball before worrying about their distribution.

I'm with you totally on this one Teddy. The clue is in their job title. Number one priority - keep the ball out of the goal. I just don’t get the general emphasis on being 'good with their feet', surely anyone who plays football needs to be good with their feet.

As for their kit - we'll, I know it helps to distinguish them, but pink, really. My 7 year old granddaughter saw some of the game and, in a tone of utter disgust, said 'why is that one wearing pink?'. Teddy, you and I both know that a goalie should wear a green roll neck jumper over black shorts. Proper kit eh?

That said, I think Guaita rates as one of the best keepers we've had. Saved us again last night for sure.

 


Dad and I would watch games on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end, probably at the same time as Roy.

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 06 Apr 21 1.19pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Bufon, the great Italian goalkeeper, played in pink and maintained it helped him.

Clearly playing disguised as a trifle nonplussed Richardlison and co.

The goal only came when Rodrigues could not see Vicente.

Once again, shrewd planning by the Crystal Palace technical staff.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Online Flag Midhurst 06 Apr 21 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Bufon, the great Italian goalkeeper, played in pink and maintained it helped him.

Clearly playing disguised as a trifle nonplussed Richardlison and co.

The goal only came when Rodrigues could not see Vicente.

Once again, shrewd planning by the Crystal Palace technical staff.

Those Italians. Bloomin' fancy pants trendsetters. Maybe you've got a point though steeleye, the brighter the better eh?!

 

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 06 Apr 21 1.51pm Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Those Italians. Bloomin' fancy pants trendsetters. Maybe you've got a point though steeleye, the brighter the better eh?!

There is a psychology behind the bright garish colours. The theory being that he louder and more garish the kit the more obvious and bigger it makes the keeper look and therefore on a subconscious level will make a striker more intimidated and less composed when striking the ball or bearing down on goal.

I promise I've not made this up it is `a thing`

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 06 Apr 21 1.55pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Those Italians. Bloomin' fancy pants trendsetters. Maybe you've got a point though steeleye, the brighter the better eh?!

I do think Palace are best in the bright yellow away strip.

When there is only a fraction of a second you may pick out a player better.

Romania v. England in the World Cup, can't remember what year, the Romanian team took the field with bleached yellow hair.

Jimmy Hill thought it was a good idea and got pilloried for it.

There you go, try anything once.


 

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