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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Online Flag 15 Jun 21 11.02am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

I think we should show we are a progressive club and go for Shelley Kerr former Arsenal and Scotland ladies manager.

I think they should give the job to the best candidate, regardless of gender, age, race or anything else.

If a coach that happens to be female is the best candidate then employ them. If we employ a coach because they are female, then that isn't progressive at all. At least not in a good way.

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 15 Jun 21 11.09am Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by Soton Jack

Hi Swans fan here.. Not sure what's going on with Cooper but its looking likely he won't be with us next season so i guess he still could be in the frame as your new Manager possibly.

A few thoughts on Cooper - Its very evident he has a lot of contacts in the game and is a trusted coach especially for young players with the success he's had with past England youth squads.

Cooper builds his success on having a really solid and organised defence and can play a 3,4 or 5 backline but also relies on 2 midfielders sitting deep so we constantly invite pressure.

We don't play with much width and often resort to the long aimless ball as opposed to passing through the lines like we used too.

Not having a recognised striker for 2 years and getting to the playoffs could be seen as a great achievement but there was a massive reliance on Ayew to deliver something out of nothing to win games.

If Cooper signs then i can't see his coaching staff being either good enough or one maybe not wanting to move at all so Cooper would need some experience around him to succeed.

Would Cooper keep you up !? i doubt it very much, would he rebuild your side on a limited budget probably not, would you enjoy the football served up again probably not. If you had issue with Roy's subs strategy then Cooper will trump him with some very bizarre decisions.

It could be argued with a better squad and better players he could deliver but this would be a big gamble for you. You probably need a couple of seasons of transition with your ageing and out of contract players so you need a period of stability.

A lot of our fans would happily take midtable and play some decent football than watch us get outplayed at home by Preston and Coventry playing the whole game in our half under Cooper's reign.

Whatever happens good luck to the Eagles next season.


Jesus! That sounds scarily familiar. Exactly the same as our approach in the last few years under Roy ... but guessing you knew that, hence posting! Fair play and thanks for the post mate!

I don't want Cooper anywhere near us having read that. Ismael for me now ... assuming Dyche isn't possible now!

 

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View Palacesince64's Profile Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 15 Jun 21 11.13am Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I think they should give the job to the best candidate, regardless of gender, age, race or anything else.

If a coach that happens to be female is the best candidate then employ them. If we employ a coach because they are female, then that isn't progressive at all. At least not in a good way.

Well said that man. Wonder what StrangerThing from Sydney would think given his view that no decent manager came out of Scotland? Jesus mate not only Scottish but a Sheila too!!

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 15 Jun 21 11.35am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Any updates from our friend dazza? I believe we thought an announcement was coming last week...any ideas what the hold up is?

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag Cahir 15 Jun 21 11.41am Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by Soton Jack

Hi Swans fan here.. Not sure what's going on with Cooper but its looking likely he won't be with us next season so i guess he still could be in the frame as your new Manager possibly.

A few thoughts on Cooper - Its very evident he has a lot of contacts in the game and is a trusted coach especially for young players with the success he's had with past England youth squads.

Cooper builds his success on having a really solid and organised defence and can play a 3,4 or 5 backline but also relies on 2 midfielders sitting deep so we constantly invite pressure.

We don't play with much width and often resort to the long aimless ball as opposed to passing through the lines like we used too.

Not having a recognised striker for 2 years and getting to the playoffs could be seen as a great achievement but there was a massive reliance on Ayew to deliver something out of nothing to win games.

If Cooper signs then i can't see his coaching staff being either good enough or one maybe not wanting to move at all so Cooper would need some experience around him to succeed.

Would Cooper keep you up !? i doubt it very much, would he rebuild your side on a limited budget probably not, would you enjoy the football served up again probably not. If you had issue with Roy's subs strategy then Cooper will trump him with some very bizarre decisions.

It could be argued with a better squad and better players he could deliver but this would be a big gamble for you. You probably need a couple of seasons of transition with your ageing and out of contract players so you need a period of stability.

A lot of our fans would happily take midtable and play some decent football than watch us get outplayed at home by Preston and Coventry playing the whole game in our half under Cooper's reign.

Whatever happens good luck to the Eagles next season.


Is that you Mr Parish .

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Online Flag 15 Jun 21 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

How on earth did we get here???

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Jun 21 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

How on earth did we get here???

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Worrying but true

 

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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 15 Jun 21 12.47pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

How on earth did we get here???

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Because we always do. Look at every transfer window in many a year. It's bloody obvious where we are lacking and what we need but we sit back and see targets go elsewhere then frantically try to make poorer signings at the last minute.

I cannot see that Roy's departure was an unplanned bolt from the blue so we should have been making plans and getting someone in place. As usual we haven't and that cannot bode well for either signing new players or those out of contract. I fear some we may well want to keep will walk away as we dilly dally.

And this could in the lo g term prove costly

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 15 Jun 21 12.48pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Everything will be fine, have faith, this is Palace!

 


Bring back Brolin

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 15 Jun 21 1.21pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Just noticed that Parish has given an interview to the BBC discussing Zaha and also the managerial situation.
He said there is a lot of interest in the job but that itís challenging to get the right candidate.
The mandate is to get a manager who can win games, but also bring through young players.
That latter requirement would seem to rule out the old stagers like Allardyce.
Nothing earth shattering, but if itís a recent interview iI wouldnít anticipate an imminent appointment.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Jun 21 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Just noticed that Parish has given an interview to the BBC discussing Zaha and also the managerial situation.
He said there is a lot of interest in the job but that itís challenging to get the right candidate.
The mandate is to get a manager who can win games, but also bring through young players.
That latter requirement would seem to rule out the old stagers like Allardyce.
Nothing earth shattering, but if itís a recent interview iI wouldnít anticipate an imminent appointment.

The Fixtures are out tomorrow, so the clock is slowly ticking down.

 


Pro USA & Israel

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Online Flag 15 Jun 21 1.48pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Repeating myself here, but why do so many of you feel doing business late on in a transfer window (mostly for players, but now for a new manager) to be some kind of incompetence on the part of the club?

Surely you must appreciate that when making a new signing Palace need someone who is an improvement on what we have, as well as being within our price range, to come on to the market? That might well mean waiting for their current club to sign someone else, which they might only do once a club above them have done likewise.

Then of course the selling club must agree to our bid (which they will likely only do once they have tried to start an auction), then the player (or manager) must agree to come (which they will only do once they have explored their options in full, which might mean waiting).

It's not like buying something on Amazon. Selling clubs don't have clear price tags on their players that we can just stroll up and meet on day one of a transfer window being open. Often if we bid on day one, it just starts the auction early and gives it more time to escalate out of our reach.

The idea that Palace (or anyone outside the huge clubs) can simply choose to get business done early is nonsense. It might be possible from time to time, but often it's plainly not.

Yes, Parish could have gone for Lampard or Howe months ago, but who is to say that he didn't offer one or other the job only for them to say no? Or to say 'I'll see what other offers I get and let you know'?

I'll tell you who - none of us, that's for certain.

And if Parish hasn't offered it to either of Howe or Lampard, who is to say he hasn't interviewed them both and found them to be poor candidates? Or candidates who want unreasonable demand to be met? Or even reasonably good candidates but possibly not ones who are as good as one or two others that were not available to speak during the season?

Again, none of us, that's who.

Almost all new signings (player, staff or manager) require multiple parties to agree the deal once they have explored various alternatives. Palace are but one party, and not the controlling one.


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