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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 30 Jun 21 10.25am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

But is that the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth or is it smoke and mirrors

LOL god knows!

 

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View Pigglelet's Profile Pigglelet Flag Deepest Darkest Sussex 30 Jun 21 10.36am Send a Private Message to Pigglelet Add Pigglelet as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Another thing to consider is time. FdB got 4 games as we lost all 4. Let’s assume Chelsea beat us on day one then the new man (or woman of course!!) will have a three gam window to get a point. Hmmmmmm.

I would also just like to point out that, if Palace were to repeat last season’s results in the fixtures for the new season (Brenford excluded of course), our first win wouldn’t arrive until match number 13.

I would like to wish the new manager, whoever he is, the very best of luck.

 


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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 30 Jun 21 10.44am Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Yes, it feels underwhelming. I suspect that's not so much due to Vieira's pedigree as it is because he is so clearly nowhere near our first choice. In truth, he was probably not even on our top 10 list when the season ended. Yet here he is.

With that said, he's done all the right things to prepare himself for our job and really, Cooper or Ismael would have been no more or less of a risk, personal preferences notwithstanding.

In the end, he's got the job and he's qualified to do it. Time will tell whether he succeeds or not. What I would say is that for the first time in a fair while, we have a "figurehead" permanent manager, someone recognised and highly thought of in the game. That doesn't mean he won't fail, but it is a chance for us to forge a new identity.

All-in-all, I'm cautiously optimistic. Vieira strikes me as a much-needed change of pace at Palace and if he's a bit of a dice roll, what were the alternatives at this point? I'm keeping an open mind, will back him and the team, and we'll see where we are in October. Yes, I'm choosing to see the glass as half full rather than half empty but what the alternative to that?

that's the spirit and about where I am. Time to back him and support him if he's announced.

Nothing can compare to how disgusted I was when we hired Warnock - I really despised that fella. And he turned out alright. So I have high hopes for Viera.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 30 Jun 21 10.58am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

that's the spirit and about where I am. Time to back him and support him if he's announced.

Nothing can compare to how disgusted I was when we hired Warnock - I really despised that fella. And he turned out alright. So I have high hopes for Viera.

It's kind of the Palace way that when expectations are at their lowest things turn out best and vice versa. Also, if Nuno or Favre had come in and failed they would have cost a lot more to get rid of I would imagine. With Viera the club are in a stronger bargaining position and there may be clauses that allow for early termination, or a low severance if things don't pan out. The contract may also lean more heavily towards bonus payments rather than a large basic. That's all guesswork, but Viera will almost certainly be cheaper if nothing else.

People comparing his signing to FdB are wide of the mark in my view. FdB only knew the Ajax way and seemingly didn't know how to be adaptable. Viera has coached at Man City, worked with a team comprised largely of inferior players in the US, and managed in the French league with a team similar to our level. It is also worth remembering that this is also a risk for him. If he fails with us his PL dream may be over. There is no doubt a desire to manage Arsenal one day and hopefully he does well enough with us to achieve that (if he does sign of course!!)

 

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View Palacesince64's Profile Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 30 Jun 21 11.06am Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It's kind of the Palace way that when expectations are at their lowest things turn out best and vice versa. Also, if Nuno or Favre had come in and failed they would have cost a lot more to get rid of I would imagine. With Viera the club are in a stronger bargaining position and there may be clauses that allow for early termination, or a low severance if things don't pan out. The contract may also lean more heavily towards bonus payments rather than a large basic. That's all guesswork, but Viera will almost certainly be cheaper if nothing else.

People comparing his signing to FdB are wide of the mark in my view. FdB only knew the Ajax way and seemingly didn't know how to be adaptable. Viera has coached at Man City, worked with a team comprised largely of inferior players in the US, and managed in the French league with a team similar to our level. It is also worth remembering that this is also a risk for him. If he fails with us his PL dream may be over. There is no doubt a desire to manage Arsenal one day and hopefully he does well enough with us to achieve that (if he does sign of course!!)

If he achieves his ambition and becomes the Arsenal manager in 2 or 3 years time I’ll be delighted for him. if it happens it’ll mean we’re playing European football!

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 30 Jun 21 11.13am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

If he achieves his ambition and becomes the Arsenal manager in 2 or 3 years time I’ll be delighted for him. if it happens it’ll mean we’re playing European football!

It's worth remembering that there was a time when a successful, young Steve Coppell was nailed on to become the next shoe-in, big club manager if not at Man Utd after Ferguson turned things around, somewhere else. Doesn't always happen the way you expect. Vieira may come, succeed, and decide Palace is his club because it all fits for him, as it did with Coppell. Stranger things have happened.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Jun 21 11.33am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

There were positives and negatives with all the supposed candidates for the job.

PV has pedigree in terms of the clubs he has played for and managed at. He’s worked with young players at City. And gained experience of being Head Coach in very different environments.

He has a reputation to make in the Premier League, not to lose.

Let’s get right behind him

 


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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 30 Jun 21 12.26pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

There were positives and negatives with all the supposed candidates for the job.

PV has pedigree in terms of the clubs he has played for and managed at. He’s worked with young players at City. And gained experience of being Head Coach in very different environments.

He has a reputation to make in the Premier League, not to lose.

Let’s get right behind him

Well said Neillo. To all the flakes and moaners here, suck it up, Buttercup. If Vieira is named then he's our manager and at a minimum, his pedigree is sound as Neillo says. Getting excited is a choice. If you support Palace then make the choice to get excited, and get behind the new manager. FFS, some people are never, ever happy.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 30 Jun 21 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It's kind of the Palace way that when expectations are at their lowest things turn out best and vice versa. Also, if Nuno or Favre had come in and failed they would have cost a lot more to get rid of I would imagine. With Viera the club are in a stronger bargaining position and there may be clauses that allow for early termination, or a low severance if things don't pan out. The contract may also lean more heavily towards bonus payments rather than a large basic. That's all guesswork, but Viera will almost certainly be cheaper if nothing else.

People comparing his signing to FdB are wide of the mark in my view. FdB only knew the Ajax way and seemingly didn't know how to be adaptable. Viera has coached at Man City, worked with a team comprised largely of inferior players in the US, and managed in the French league with a team similar to our level. It is also worth remembering that this is also a risk for him. If he fails with us his PL dream may be over. There is no doubt a desire to manage Arsenal one day and hopefully he does well enough with us to achieve that (if he does sign of course!!)

Arsenal appointed Arteta, who was also a coach at Man City,, but no managerial experience. Vieira has coached and has managerial experience.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jun 21 12.46pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Has Vieira ‘’changed his mind’’ yet?

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 30 Jun 21 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Has Vieira ‘’changed his mind’’ yet?

I agree.....it does seem to be dragging on a bit. I started to get excited about the last two and then the talks collapsed.

So, I'm not getting excited at all.....yet.

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jun 21 1.13pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

If he achieves his ambition and becomes the Arsenal manager in 2 or 3 years time I’ll be delighted for him. if it happens it’ll mean we’re playing European football!


At Arsenal's expense?

 

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