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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 09 May 21 2.06pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

ANd why would he want the job? It's a curse, as things stand. No real chance of forming a new Government for the rest of the decade, lumbered with an internal policy that means it cannot actually change much by way of its policy stances without agreement from the membership and effectively held hostage by the Unions.

I agree he is the successful senior Labour politician at the moment.

Labour are institutionally 'woke'. Putting them at complete odds with the socially conservative working classes they need to win back.

Utterly screwed.

As in Lord of the rings," there is but one"
Maybe David milliband would come back. His soapy brother prevented it before.
I could be way out of touch but he did have a bit about him.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 09 May 21 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

As in Lord of the rings," there is but one"
Maybe David milliband would come back. His soapy brother prevented it before.
I could be way out of touch but he did have a bit about him.

Possible.

He has been parked in New York running some NGO 'charity', which are usually fronts for the usual types. He would certainly be the choice for the likes of Mandleson.

But again, the praticalities. He needs landing in a safe seat and then needs to be able to take control of the entire party to get it on message before 2024.

Suspect if he does make a return, it will not be until at least the next GE and only then could take the reins.

The entire Labour party structure is utterly f***ed. A new leader does not mean new policies or a change in direction simply because they do not have the power, without the majority of both the members and the TU's. Let's not forget that Starmer won on the basis of promising to effectively continue with Corbyn's legacy.

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 09 May 21 3.43pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC1965

The real problem with Labour is their reluctance/inability to elect a woman as party leader.

Eddie Izzard may change all that soon.......

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 May 21 3.45pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Eddie Izzard may change all that soon.......

Lol

 


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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 09 May 21 3.57pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

What they also fail to understand is that the British public like the ‘string em up / send them back’ type politics of Priti Patel etc and they also don’t care about Boris and his posh mates filling their boots from the coffers, or tax avoidance, or the NHS. In fact now I come to think about it what are the public bothered about? Apart from Brexit which has now finished? If Trump applied for UK citizenship he would probably be elected!

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 May 21 4.26pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

what finished off Labour in the North of England was

a) 1997 Tony Bliar deliberately opened the Borders of the country to the World.

and

b) the pakistani Rape gangs.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 May 2021 4.29pm)

 


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Or the illegal wars he entered our Armed Forces in to boost his own popularity. He has been found out to be a war criminal so why has he never been prosicuted?

what finished off Labour in the North of England was

a) 1997 Tony Bliar deliberately opened the Borders of the country to the World.

and

b) the pakistani Rape gangs.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 May 2021 4.29pm)

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 May 21 5.47pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

This song is about 'polishing a Turd', Politicians & Unwanted foreign Wars.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 09 May 21 6.18pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

What they also fail to understand is that the British public like the ‘string em up / send them back’ type politics of Priti Patel etc and they also don’t care about Boris and his posh mates filling their boots from the coffers, or tax avoidance, or the NHS. In fact now I come to think about it what are the public bothered about? Apart from Brexit which has now finished? If Trump applied for UK citizenship he would probably be elected!

Instead of?

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 May 21 5.17am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Ambition

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed but why did Burnham quit Parliament? Because he felt that he had no chance of progression within the party and rather than leave like Chukka did he decided to pursue his career in the north.

What sort of power base does he have at Westminster amongst the metropolitan elite?

To the average voter he seems a solid candidate but I suspect the Corbynists would not favour him?

Anyway he has to be elected as an MP first.

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 May 21 5.31am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

If I was a Labour spokesperson I would try some mea culpa, apologise to the thousands of party workers who knock on doors and work from within to try and reshape the party into a something resembling an electable alternative.

What I would not do is kiss Starmer's arse so my final pension is increased bu virtue of having been promoted above entry level MP.


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Ian Murray was doing a full Yes Minister when questioned on Angela Rayburn.

I would give my full support to any Corbynista has been who parrots on about how well Corbyn did and Labour should return to the " progressive " policies in the 2019 manifesto.

The current Government is actually relocating hundreds of Treasury jobs to Darlington, a good example of something Labour talked about and never did, and a real demonstration of the start of the levelling up project.

Conservatives are parked in Labour's gardens and nowhere for Labour to go.

But, to be fair, Labour is so out of touch that it is a very long term project. Hard to see a Labour PM ever again unless it's leading a coalition.

As I have opined before, Labour needs to somehow find the 40+ seats they always got in Scotland and that is not in view with the Hubble telescope.

If the public were given a full and frank account of how much Government, central and local costs, and what individuals are taking out they would be shocked and horrified IMO.

Originally posted by silvertop

Thought this was late response to my review of bridgerton.

On topic what would you do if them? Indeed what did the tories do when they were losing deposits left right and centre during their dark years. And all cabinet ministers on rotation (except tellingly BJ) to tough it out on the various sleaze allegations.

Politics eh?

Edited by HKOwen (10 May 2021 5.32am)

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 10 May 21 6.35am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I assume this is a joke if not this is what is wrong with Labour. Obsessed with tick box identity politics. The real problem with Labour is their inability to select a leader with gravitas and charisma who can get them elected. If that is a woman or black or gay blah blah then fine but talent has to be the key element.

Across the country Labour Party HQ has foisted favoured candidates onto the local party and in many cases the voters have said no thanks.

Get back to basic tell the local parties to mentor local people with high profiles (as they did in the old days) instead of the identity kit university suits they have now.


They aren't that obsessed with box ticking if they haven't had a female leader yet.

 

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