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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 May 21 11.39pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Mathers

Whatís the point here????

Gary Cahill also has 83% passing accuracy, 1 goal and 1assist. Passing accuracy is a pointless f***ing stat if the passes are going sideways and backwards.

Why donít you take a look at JWP on your new favourite website?

Similar teams, both are primary set piece takers and captains so will likely play most games.

87% passing accuracy, 7 assists and 8 goals. Can not stand him as a player but he is miles ahead of Luka is every facet of the game.

For avoidance of doubt, I peruse a plethora of websites and don't have a "New favourite website".

My 'Link' was in response to comments apropos Milivojevic's passing prowess. I am not of the opinion that an 83% pass success rate over 27 games and over 1300 passes indicates that he has a severe lack of passing ability.

I accept he is not a Glenn Hoddle but the ability to regularly pass to a team-mate, even though the passes might not be too adventurous at times is a good quality to possess.

My opinion is that overall, Milivojevic has been more influential in previous seasons.

Edited by Willo (30 May 2021 11.50pm)

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 31 May 21 1.16am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

For avoidance of doubt, I peruse a plethora of websites and don't have a "New favourite website".

My 'Link' was in response to comments apropos Milivojevic's passing prowess. I am not of the opinion that an 83% pass success rate over 27 games and over 1300 passes indicates that he has a severe lack of passing ability.

I accept he is not a Glenn Hoddle but the ability to regularly pass to a team-mate, even though the passes might not be too adventurous at times is a good quality to possess.

My opinion is that overall, Milivojevic has been more influential in previous seasons.

Edited by Willo (30 May 2021 11.50pm)

He certainly has. No one is denying that. But to write him off is premature. He's shown time and time again the ability to split defences with great passes or hit great diagonals to the wings. He hasn't suddenly lost that ability...he's just lost a bit of form. (Also hard to demonstrate your ability on the ball with an overall team possession rate of 20 - 30 every game.

Bottom line for me:

Luka Milivojevic is a decent player.
His form has dropped this season. We don't know why.
But we've seen enough previously to know what he can offer and it's worth seeing if a different manager and a fresh season can get it out of him.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 31 May 21 6.31am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by cROYdonrogers

There appears to be some level of boredom, so Iíll throw this one out. Clearly not the player he was, but why?
Used to be tidy. Didnít give the ball away and made useful interceptions. However this season and maybe the back half of the last his form has dipped.
Is he just an Ďoverpayed playerí. Has he lost interest. Has he spent too much time with his mate at Fulham, or is the captaincy proving a burden? He missed the last few games, and there was mention of some family issues.
More importantly will his form return. If not does he have a value.

Jairo Riedewald happened to Luka. It must be like carrying a bag of sand on his shoulder.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 May 21 7.20am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Jairo Riedewald happened to Luka. It must be like carrying a bag of sand on his shoulder.

And when Jairo wasnít in the team? I believe Jairo has started 19 games to Lukaís 31. So not necessarily Jairoís fault but as you have made it quite clear you donít think Jairo should be anywhere near the squad, I suppose it is as good an excuse as any

Edited by Spiderman (31 May 2021 7.28am)

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 31 May 21 7.59am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

And when Jairo wasnít in the team? I believe Jairo has started 19 games to Lukaís 31. So not necessarily Jairoís fault but as you have made it quite clear you donít think Jairo should be anywhere near the squad, I suppose it is as good an excuse as any

Edited by Spiderman (31 May 2021 7.28am)

I donít believe Luka has played 31 bad games this season. There is a massive drop in his quality when Jairo plays beside him.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 31 May 21 8.39am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Could the ex managers rigid positional tactics not be a reason for lukas dip in form?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 May 21 10.01am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Could the ex managers rigid positional tactics not be a reason for lukas dip in form?

Possibly yes

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 31 May 21 11.13am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Jairo Riedewald happened to Luka. It must be like carrying a bag of sand on his shoulder.

Maybe not a bag of sand but yes he has had to look after his less experienced team mate in the heat of battle . Roys two in the middle ,often up against 3 hasnt helped either nor I would suggest has the effects of the covid .

All things put together (along with the stress of family issues ,whatever they are ) and its no wonder we have not seen the best Luka on show .

 

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View stujii's Profile stujii Flag 31 May 21 11.42am Send a Private Message to stujii Add stujii as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Could the ex managers rigid positional tactics not be a reason for lukas dip in form?

Add to that the vitriol he has been given by a large number of Palace fans...Lucaís got a captainís ego and would thrive better on encouragement rather than a slagging off IMO

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 31 May 21 11.51am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Personally I'd put Milivojevic in the same category as the likes of Benteke and Townsend:

It's easy, and often fair, to slate them for poor performance standards.

They have shown that they can be good players in this league.

There seems to be a correlation between effort and contract length which is at best unfortunate.

A new manager might breath new life into them, or just bin them off.

Replacing them with a player as good is not as easy as we might like.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (31 May 2021 11.52am)

 

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View A1969Eagle's Profile A1969Eagle Flag Redhill 02 Jun 21 9.50pm Send a Private Message to A1969Eagle Add A1969Eagle as a friend

He appeared so BORED with tactics expected to play under Roy and it put too much pressure on the defensive midfielders, with no creative midfielder as an outlet..

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

Very likely it could be management, not that I wish to point the finger. Was excellent under Sam but then slowly dwindled over time.

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 02 Jun 21 10.56pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

He appeared so BORED with tactics expected to play under Roy and it put too much pressure on the defensive midfielders, with no creative midfielder as an outlet..

Agree. The defensive mids under a Roy regime are on a hiding to nothing.

 

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