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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Online Flag Midhurst 07 Jun 21 4.11pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Even Boris has come out fighting Robinson's corner saying he thinks the ECB have gone too far.

I started this thread because it seemed he was being unfairly punished for silly, youthful behaviour. Something we've all been through.

He didn't know where his life would take him, he's apologised, he now needs to be allowed to play the game he loves.

The world's gone mad.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 07 Jun 21 4.16pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Even Boris has come out fighting Robinson's corner saying he thinks the ECB have gone too far.

I started this thread because it seemed he was being unfairly punished for silly, youthful behaviour. Something we've all been through.

He didn't know where his life would take him, he's apologised, he now needs to be allowed to play the game he loves.

The world's gone mad.

Boris has some balls I tell you. This could be the fightback against this woke tiny minority affecting all of us.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Jun 21 4.23pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree


I see no reason why a Government Minister should make a comment on this issue, in the same way as I doubt the ECB will make a statement on fisheries policy any time soon.

You see no reason why the Secretary of State for sport should comment on a sporting matter?

 

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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 07 Jun 21 4.29pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You see no reason why the Secretary of State for sport should comment on a sporting matter?

Funny though, I must have missed his comments last week about Chelsea fans painting on statues!

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Online Flag Midhurst 07 Jun 21 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Boris has some balls I tell you. This could be the fightback against this woke tiny minority affecting all of us.

Let's hope so. Somehow I doubt it.

 

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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 07 Jun 21 4.32pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Boris has some balls I tell you. This could be the fightback against this woke tiny minority affecting all of us.

Hardly!

Sky high death rates through inaction re Covid, but still miles ahead in the polls!

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Jun 21 4.55pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Common sense has to factor in, or at least should. He was essentially a kid when he made these tweets. Assuming that since that time he hasn't, would that not imply that racism and sexism aren't central to his mind's landscape. Besides in looking at them they were actually crass, immature and offensive across the board (a joke about Gary Speed and Madeleine Mccan too etc). Not revealing of some kind of targeted hatred, which I assume is the implication of how they are now framed.

He's no doubt mixed with a lot more people since then too, during his time in cricket, and so is a different person. People should be allowed to develop without claims that who they were as a silly teenager is more important than who they are now. Unless there is some glaring reason to believe otherwise we should offer benefit of the doubt.

It certainly offers pause for thought in letting your kids create social media profiles though. Old content is no doubt useful for platforms to push ads and create profiles of people but only ever appears to bring the individual creating it trouble. There's little upside for the user.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 07 Jun 21 6.51pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Boris needlessly commented - silly!
Robinson has been hung out to dry instead of being counselled to find out his state of mind back then.
The ECB would have my respect if they had not suspended him until investigated.
If he had issues then they will possibly resurface now.
Even his Captain dissed him.
He shouldn't have done it but it was a long time ago - shame on them.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Jun 21 7.26pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Typical squalid Johnson but cricket doesn't need him.

Nor does it need a quick trawl through social media and finding some excuse to put Robinson back quickly.

The issue here is the ECBs commitment not just its words to the all inclusivity of our cricket.

How has this transpired and how to prevent it being repeated.

The game is far more important than individuals and a major part of British life.

It is very odd that Robinson, who was sacked by Yorkshire for unprofessional behaviour, could get through to the England team so easily and one of the things we may expect in future is vetting of social media records of future england prospects.

Commends to our captain who understands that the game is the important thing.


 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Jun 21 7.50pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Funny how they use 'inclusivity' as they exclude.

Just language manipulation to justify the bs to themselves.

Tupperware Taliban.

 


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Imagine if the right in America had treated Muhammad Ali like this.

Ali supported an organisation which celebrated white people dying and regularly called them devils....basically Ali said what he wanted on many issues without fear.

Amercia was far more socially conservative at the time yet it allowed free speech because that's at the core of the country.

This country isn't free, and punishing people for tweets they made as teenagers sums that up.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Jun 21 8.36pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Imagine if the right in America had treated Muhammad Ali like this.

Ali supported an organisation which celebrated white people dying and regularly called them devils....basically Ali said what he wanted on many issues without fear.

Amercia was far more socially conservative at the time yet it allowed free speech because that's at the core of the country.

This country isn't free, and punishing people for tweets they made as teenagers sums that up.

Well, I mean his opinions on how people were treated due to their race fed into his draft evasion, narrowly avoiding 5 years in prison as well as having his belts taken away. That cost him 4 years out of the ring. While it could be slanted towards 'that was his actions, not opinions', his refusal was clearly a consequence of what he believed in.

Also let's not forget that Ali's own beliefs didn't exist in a bubble. He grew up during racial segregation and was routinely denied service in stores and the like growing up due to his race, so I'm not sure that the idea that the country was free or the politics allowed him endless freedoms is the full picture.

What you're actually highlighting and unhappy with is that you feel life is more difficult for people like you now, and that you don't care or give much thought to times and situations where it was far more difficult for others. The cricket decision is clearly way OTT, but as is this rose tinted view of how other people took the highroad when they clearly didn't. It as clearly a time where the lived experience for people like him was beyond any societal restrictions of freedoms that you'll ever have to deal with.

 

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