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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Jun 21 9.47pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

This staunch brexiteer and wetherspoons boss has called for easier immigration rules as he can"t get enough staff for his pubs and it must be eating away at his profits.He was the most on screen industry boss during the brexit vote, the one i remember anyway, now he wants to make it easy for Johnny foreigner to come over to our great country, does he not want to employ our great british workforce?If he uses the "workshy"excuse, we should pack him off to eastern europe to be with his pals.

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

This staunch brexiteer and wetherspoons boss has called for easier immigration rules as he can"t get enough staff for his pubs and it must be eating away at his profits.He was the most on screen industry boss during the brexit vote, the one i remember anyway, now he wants to make it easy for Johnny foreigner to come over to our great country, does he not want to employ our great british workforce?If he uses the "workshy"excuse, we should pack him off to eastern europe to be with his pals.

You literally have 'any European country I fancy' as a byline in your posts.

 


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Itís going to be interesting to see what happens in industries that rely (or relied) heavily on cheap EU labour. Basic economics tells us that if there is a supply shortage of labour then wages will have to increase to a level where it is sufficient for demand to take that wage. So rising wages = good on the face of it.

These industries that rely on this labour however are typically industries where profit margins are very low and rely on sales volume for profit (hospitality, supermarkets, agriculture etc) so the only way for higher wages to be sustainable would be for prices to go up. To the consumer this means higher costs for your weekly shop, a pint down your local, and all sorts of regular weekly spending. In a wider context this could quite feasibly push inflation up quickly and put pressure on the BoE to raise interest rates, possibly the last thing they want to do in an economy suffering the effects of an 18 month pandemic.

FWIW I think Tim Martin is right in that the government will be forced (in the short term at least) to make it a lot easier/cheaper for unskilled labour to be able to come in from elsewhere to fill the labour gaps, otherwise the knock on will cause the treasury far bigger problems when it comes to wanting to borrow further if interest rates are forced to go up to keep inflation in check.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

Itís going to be interesting to see what happens in industries that rely (or relied) heavily on cheap EU labour. Basic economics tells us that if there is a supply shortage of labour then wages will have to increase to a level where it is sufficient for demand to take that wage. So rising wages = good on the face of it.

These industries that rely on this labour however are typically industries where profit margins are very low and rely on sales volume for profit (hospitality, supermarkets, agriculture etc) so the only way for higher wages to be sustainable would be for prices to go up. To the consumer this means higher costs for your weekly shop, a pint down your local, and all sorts of regular weekly spending. In a wider context this could quite feasibly push inflation up quickly and put pressure on the BoE to raise interest rates, possibly the last thing they want to do in an economy suffering the effects of an 18 month pandemic.

FWIW I think Tim Martin is right in that the government will be forced (in the short term at least) to make it a lot easier/cheaper for unskilled labour to be able to come in from elsewhere to fill the labour gaps, otherwise the knock on will cause the treasury far bigger problems when it comes to wanting to borrow further if interest rates are forced to go up to keep inflation in check.


I can"t help feeling this bloke has eaten a large serving of humble pie, bet he didn"t enjoy it, interesting indeed Dan.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You literally have 'any European country I fancy' as a byline in your posts.

Yes, but I wasn"t banging on about freedom like Tim Stirling, so I would be happy going anywhere in europe I fancy. Tim seemed to suggest we would be a lot better off without the europeans over here, now wants to change gov policy to get them here fast, he should make his mind up!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

Yes, but I wasn"t banging on about freedom like Tim Stirling, so I would be happy going anywhere in europe I fancy. Tim seemed to suggest we would be a lot better off without the europeans over here, now wants to change gov policy to get them here fast, he should make his mind up!

So you weren't banging on about freedom when you say you can go to any European country you like?

Up is down, left is right.

Whatever.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Jun 2021 10.48pm)

 


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If we stopped being so generous with benefits maybe some workshy feckless oxygen theives might be forced to work for their money.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

If we stopped being so generous with benefits maybe some workshy feckless oxygen theives might be forced to work for their money.

The reality is that even people working full time jobs in a lot of these industries donít make enough to be self-sufficient. Especially those with kids.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So you weren't banging on about freedom when you say you can go to any European country you like?

Up is down, left is right.

Whatever.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Jun 2021 10.48pm)


Freedom from the pesky europeans he wanted away from and is now trying his utmost to bring back, obvs.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

If we stopped being so generous with benefits maybe some workshy feckless oxygen theives might be forced to work for their money.

Indeed! so perhaps the rumours about the workshy over here were right mate, I know the farmers employing the europeans picking fruit think so, most say they tried to employ local brits but they never turn up on a weekend so gave up!

 

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Originally posted by DanH

The reality is that even people working full time jobs in a lot of these industries donít make enough to be self-sufficient. Especially those with kids.

Indeed again! Lots of jobs now for the average man are useless, once you take out fares and cost of tools etc, including London Taxi driving!Its the huge salaries at the top that bring the average wage up, lots are working full time and still earn fcuk all at the end of the year! Forget all this spend spend spend to help out richie, keep your hard earned in your bank, keep the old tv or car until they break down for good, let the top earners sp[end spend spend, they can afford it!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

Indeed! so perhaps the rumours about the workshy over here were right mate, I know the farmers employing the europeans picking fruit think so, most say they tried to employ local brits but they never turn up on a weekend so gave up!

Workshy feckless Brit > hard working Eastern European apparently.

 


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