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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Jun 21 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Freedom from the pesky europeans he wanted away from and is now trying his utmost to bring back, obvs.

I give up.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Jun 21 11.17pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I give up.

Thats freedom for you!

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Jun 21 11.21pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Workshy feckless Brit > hard working Eastern European apparently.

So the great british fruit and veg farmers seem to think! And i"m sure if the local british were reliable and hard working, and turned up on a weekend, they would be more than happy to employ them, why wouldn"t they? But obviously the rumours were true, the europeans work harder and are more reliable, even the students over here don"t want to pick fruit, yet in my day, they would travel to the kibbutz to pick in Israel, how times have changed.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 03 Jun 21 11.29pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

So the great british fruit and veg farmers seem to think! And i"m sure if the local british were reliable and hard working, and turned up on a weekend, they would be more than happy to employ them, why wouldn"t they? But obviously the rumours were true, the europeans work harder and are more reliable, even the students over here don"t want to pick fruit, yet in my day, they would travel to the kibbutz to pick in Israel, how times have changed.

A lot of the practices that go on on the farms are pretty disgraceful though and they donít want British labour as they donít live on site. When on site they deduct a Ďrentí from their wage which pushes the labour costs down even further. A lot of this practice is hand forced as the farms are locked in to low prices by the big supermarkets who have massive control over the prices they pay. The whole supply chain is pretty screwed, the margins are so low all the way through until the big supermarkets ensure they get their share.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Jun 21 11.43pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

A lot of the practices that go on on the farms are pretty disgraceful though and they donít want British labour as they donít live on site. When on site they deduct a Ďrentí from their wage which pushes the labour costs down even further. A lot of this practice is hand forced as the farms are locked in to low prices by the big supermarkets who have massive control over the prices they pay. The whole supply chain is pretty screwed, the margins are so low all the way through until the big supermarkets ensure they get their share.

Yes, all true Dan, makes you feel for the poor europeans coming over,hard graft, seven days a week, for not a great wage after deductions, fair play to them you could say!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Jun 21 6.30am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Indeed! so perhaps the rumours about the workshy over here were right mate, I know the farmers employing the europeans picking fruit think so, most say they tried to employ local brits but they never turn up on a weekend so gave up!

FWIW my son and his girlfriend tried desperately to get farm work last year, when, allegedly there was a shortage. Most didnít reply to them, whilst others insisted they live on site, in caravans, and would have accommodation costs deducted at source. Why?
Maybe this is why we are still getting plane loads of workers from EU and Ukraine coming over, as even these conditions are better than they have at home?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Jun 21 6.32am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

A lot of the practices that go on on the farms are pretty disgraceful though and they donít want British labour as they donít live on site. When on site they deduct a Ďrentí from their wage which pushes the labour costs down even further. A lot of this practice is hand forced as the farms are locked in to low prices by the big supermarkets who have massive control over the prices they pay. The whole supply chain is pretty screwed, the margins are so low all the way through until the big supermarkets ensure they get their share.

Yep, see my last post. Over the years, I have seen many contracts for the imported farm workers, they do not make pretty reading but presumably better than what is available in their home countries

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Jun 21 8.42am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

The reality is that even people working full time jobs in a lot of these industries donít make enough to be self-sufficient. Especially those with kids.

Of course industry wants cheap labour from abroad. This is how they keep their costs low by ensuring that they can pay peanuts.
The immigration policy that you support makes most people poorer. It's that simple.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Of course industry wants cheap labour from abroad. This is how they keep their costs low by ensuring that they can pay peanuts.
The immigration policy that you support makes most people poorer. It's that simple.

I think the media reporting on the shortages in hospitably sector is quite disgraceful.

The last unemployment figures I saw were 4.8% that is a lot. In the next month we have thousands of school leavers about to start looking for work and 2m people still on furlough until September.

The media is still buying into we need to import cheap foreign labour to help our companies who pay Mcjob wages, No we bloody well don't.

Why is the media not mentioning any of this? It is possible that by October unemployment will be rising not falling although I hope not.

Tim Martin maybe a Brexiteer but I can't stand him or his pubs he and Starbucks et al should be told loud and clear start recruiting locally and pay better wages.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Jun 21 9.14am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I think the media reporting on the shortages in hospitably sector is quite disgraceful.

The last unemployment figures I saw were 4.8% that is a lot. In the next month we have thousands of school leavers about to start looking for work and 2m people still on furlough until September.

The media is still buying into we need to import cheap foreign labour to help our companies who pay Mcjob wages, No we bloody well don't.

Why is the media not mentioning any of this? It is possible that by October unemployment will be rising not falling although I hope not.

Tim Martin maybe a Brexiteer but I can't stand him or his pubs he and Starbucks et al should be told loud and clear start recruiting locally and pay better wages.

Couple of years ago, my son was desperately trying to find work, he had just left Uni. As he was over 21, I believe the minimum wage is slightly higher than for Under 21s. He applied at our local chip pie, who had been advertising for weeks, he was flexible as to how many hours and when he could work, they were keen until he said he was over 21, never heard again. The same applied when he applied to Sports Direct.
So it is not always that kids donít want to work.

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 04 Jun 21 9.42am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

This staunch brexiteer and wetherspoons boss has called for easier immigration rules as he can"t get enough staff for his pubs and it must be eating away at his profits.He was the most on screen industry boss during the brexit vote, the one i remember anyway, now he wants to make it easy for Johnny foreigner to come over to our great country, does he not want to employ our great british workforce?If he uses the "workshy"excuse, we should pack him off to eastern europe to be with his pals.


Pre 2004 there were no Eastern European workers and 30% more pubs yet they were all staffed.

Itís a fallacy that the country require an endless stream of cheap labour.

 


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 04 Jun 21 9.47am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

A lot of the practices that go on on the farms are pretty disgraceful though and they donít want British labour as they donít live on site. When on site they deduct a Ďrentí from their wage which pushes the labour costs down even further. A lot of this practice is hand forced as the farms are locked in to low prices by the big supermarkets who have massive control over the prices they pay. The whole supply chain is pretty screwed, the margins are so low all the way through until the big supermarkets ensure they get their share.

They donít want British workers as British workers generally demand to be paid a fair wage.

Low wages are a direct result of open immigration. The left never mention this which is a shame, as itís the working man who has been f@cked by this.

 


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