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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Sep 21 1.01pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That the media influence mainstream opinion is obvious. It's influence on you being an example. As most of the printed media is right leaning, that's the direction it goes. The Mail, Express and Sun being the leading culprits.

What constitutes a majority depends on the issue. The 2019 GE was unique in that it brought together a set of unparalleled circumstances. Which I won't attempt to detail in full but primarily consisted of Brexit fatigue, a slick marketing man running a campaign and an opposition in disarray, led by a wholly unsuitable, personally ambitious, scumbag who was abandoned by the traditional Labour voter.

2019 was not so much a triumph for the Tories as a disaster for our Parliament and the country. Parliament failed to do what it is elected by us to do. Which is not to give us what we want, but to give us what we need. It being their job to determine what that need is.

That view is neither right, nor left. It is the very essence of our Parliamentary, representative, democracy.

It is you, and those who think as you do, and not me, who are blinded by their own prejudices and yes, self-righteousness, and unable to come to terms with basic truths.

I do care what you think. I care about what everyone who has a vote thinks and will go on, to my last day, arguing for truth, honesty, morality and responsibility from those we choose to lead us.

For we should elect leaders and not followers. We desperately need a new generation of leaders to emerge who can inspire and lead us away from the path we are currently sliding down.

The same old deluded dross about newspapers. The readership for printed news is tiny compared to what it used to be. I don't read them.

The overwhelming influence on people's perceptions is television and Internet media, the vast majority of which is Leftist.

If we are on a slippery slope, it can be summed up simply by saying the words over population and the collapse of Western culture via mass immigration.

Have another pasty.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The same old deluded dross about newspapers. The readership for printed news is tiny compared to what it used to be. I don't read them.

The overwhelming influence on people's perceptions is television and Internet media, the vast majority of which is Leftist.

If we are on a slippery slope, it can be summed up simply by saying the words over population and the collapse of Western culture via mass immigration.

Have another pasty.

I don't have the figures to hand, but whilst the sale of printed media is nothing like it once was, the use of their online sites is booming.

The Mail has by far the biggest online readership in the UK and is the 4th biggest in the world. Hardly a left leaning news outlet!

If you think any of the major TV news outlets are "leftish" all you are doing is confirming how far to the right you are. It's untrue. Except for GB News, which is markedly rightish.

 

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I as a white person would not be given the same freedom of speech in my workplace if the colour of skin was reversed.

Edited by Pembroke (07 Sep 2021 3.30pm)

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 07 Sep 21 5.10pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Is GB news still a thing?

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Sep 21 5.14pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Is GB news still a thing?

Andrew Neil is definitely coming back... definitely. Just a holiday.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Sep 21 5.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't have the figures to hand, but whilst the sale of printed media is nothing like it once was, the use of their online sites is booming.

The Mail has by far the biggest online readership in the UK and is the 4th biggest in the world. Hardly a left leaning news outlet!

If you think any of the major TV news outlets are "leftish" all you are doing is confirming how far to the right you are. It's untrue. Except for GB News, which is markedly rightish.

I don't think they are, I know they are.

The fact that you don't agree tells how left wing you are.
See how easy it is?

You think GB news is 'rightish' because it shows immigrants landing on the Kent coast and dares to question idiotic wokeism?

Says it all. You don't like reality.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't think they are, I know they are.

The fact that you don't agree tells how left wing you are.
See how easy it is?

You think GB news is 'rightish' because it shows immigrants landing on the Kent coast and dares to question idiotic wokeism?

Says it all. You don't like reality.

No you don't! You just think you know. Perception is always coloured by the lights you shine from your vantage point.

I found this in the New Statesman, which I doubt you read:-

"While the BBC dominates the UK media by every possible metric, it is governed by strict impartiality guidelines. That the BBC is regularly accused of either being a platform for left-wingers or a Tory stooge suggests it is generally doing its job. Other broadcasters are similarly constrained by the Ofcom code.

For media proprietors keen to put forward a particular world-view, newspapers are still an effective way to exercise that power. Itís true that this is a power thatís been diminished in recent decades. Total average daily circulations of UK national newspapers, plus weekly Sunday sales, totalled 21 million in 2000. Today that figure is less than seven million."

GB News makes no pretence to aspire to be a balanced platform. Its whole ethos is to appeal to people like you. Which it is fully entitled to do. The real question is not that, but whether such an approach is commercially viable. According to you, it ought to be, as you believe the majority of people think like you.

I disagree. Time will tell who is correct.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Sep 21 6.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No you don't! You just think you know. Perception is always coloured by the lights you shine from your vantage point.

I found this in the New Statesman, which I doubt you read:-

"While the BBC dominates the UK media by every possible metric, it is governed by strict impartiality guidelines. That the BBC is regularly accused of either being a platform for left-wingers or a Tory stooge suggests it is generally doing its job. Other broadcasters are similarly constrained by the Ofcom code.

For media proprietors keen to put forward a particular world-view, newspapers are still an effective way to exercise that power. Itís true that this is a power thatís been diminished in recent decades. Total average daily circulations of UK national newspapers, plus weekly Sunday sales, totalled 21 million in 2000. Today that figure is less than seven million."

GB News makes no pretence to aspire to be a balanced platform. Its whole ethos is to appeal to people like you. Which it is fully entitled to do. The real question is not that, but whether such an approach is commercially viable. According to you, it ought to be, as you believe the majority of people think like you.

I disagree. Time will tell who is correct.

Total rubbish.

You are claiming no bias from the established media on the one hand and then state that their output is designed to make money.

How stupid are you?

You are contradicting yourself.

You seriously believe that, for example, The BBC, SKY or ITN coverage of the Trump Presidency was unbiased?

Go and eat a cream tea.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 07 Sep 21 8.21pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

We're talking about actual extremist activity here, not some big mouth who either hasn't used the dark web or might pop on there to buy a Mark Collett body suit to climb into if he's feeling a bit restless. Levels.

Funnily enough, shocking as it might be I don't think anyone on this site is an extremest. That was kind of the point of my contribution.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Sep 2021 4.39am)

What is "the dark web"? Any idea? Is it only for extremists? Is everyone who enters it eternally damned? Kind of like a satanic oath or something?

Or is it simply a VPN? Or maybe only restricted to P2P? Or do you have a clue what you are talking about?

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 9.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Total rubbish.

You are claiming no bias from the established media on the one hand and then state that their output is designed to make money.

How stupid are you?

You are contradicting yourself.

You seriously believe that, for example, The BBC, SKY or ITN coverage of the Trump Presidency was unbiased?

Go and eat a cream tea.

You are demonstrating more signs of dementia! This time it's confusion. I have never suggested the "established media" isn't biased! Indeed, you will recall frequent remarks about the way the likes of the Mail, Express and Sun twist their stories to suit an agenda determined by their proprietors. It's primarily the unwarranted attacks on the BBC that I deny, along with some on other broadcasters. All are subject to much more stringent oversight than the print media.

The TV coverage of the Trump Presidency was markedly restrained, given his nonsensical and often offensive behaviour. They showed considerable respect to the office whilst, at times, giving coverage to the many critics of its holder. It was most certainly unbiased, being both objective and factual.

There was much more outspoken criticism in print, online and in the pub than was heard on TV.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Sep 21 6.56am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are demonstrating more signs of dementia! This time it's confusion. I have never suggested the "established media" isn't biased! Indeed, you will recall frequent remarks about the way the likes of the Mail, Express and Sun twist their stories to suit an agenda determined by their proprietors. It's primarily the unwarranted attacks on the BBC that I deny, along with some on other broadcasters. All are subject to much more stringent oversight than the print media.

The TV coverage of the Trump Presidency was markedly restrained, given his nonsensical and often offensive behaviour. They showed considerable respect to the office whilst, at times, giving coverage to the many critics of its holder. It was most certainly unbiased, being both objective and factual.

There was much more outspoken criticism in print, online and in the pub than was heard on TV.

So are you saying only right leaning papers are biased? As that is all you have quoted. To say coverage of Trump was not biased is, IMO, a staggering statement

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Sep 21 7.47am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are demonstrating more signs of dementia! This time it's confusion. I have never suggested the "established media" isn't biased! Indeed, you will recall frequent remarks about the way the likes of the Mail, Express and Sun twist their stories to suit an agenda determined by their proprietors. It's primarily the unwarranted attacks on the BBC that I deny, along with some on other broadcasters. All are subject to much more stringent oversight than the print media.

The TV coverage of the Trump Presidency was markedly restrained, given his nonsensical and often offensive behaviour. They showed considerable respect to the office whilst, at times, giving coverage to the many critics of its holder. It was most certainly unbiased, being both objective and factual.

There was much more outspoken criticism in print, online and in the pub than was heard on TV.

So in your world, right leaning newspapers and GB News are the only outlets that are biased and the vast majority that are Left leaning are not?

The Trump coverage was not biased?

Now I know that you must be a troll. No one sane or serious could hold that opinion.

Go and play with the sheep.

 

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