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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 31 Jul 21 5.43pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by johnny the eagle

I own a 1 litre 2016 Ford Fiesta and I pay zero road tax on it a year. I also own a road bike. I think a 1 litre Ford Fiesta does more damage to the surface of the road than my road bike would ever do. I don't know if I am right but, I also thought very little of the revenue collected from road tax was actually spent on maintaining roads anyway.

I think you are correct regarding what is causing more road damage, and also right that the road tax collected probably doesn"t hit the road!I wouldn"t mention it to the road minister at gov hq though, he might come up with the idea of charging you for the car! I admire cyclists who cycle in a city and obey the road rules, we all know there"s enough useless car drivers out there , but try crossing Borough high street south of London bridge at 5.30pm , and a different type of cyclist appears. Thats the lycra clad, helmet cam, chaps, head down, trying to make it to Putney or Wimbledon village in record time, oblivious to pedestrians trying to cross the road, we need better policing on the dangerous cyclist/car driving folk.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 31 Jul 21 5.53pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by johnny the eagle

I own a 1 litre 2016 Ford Fiesta and I pay zero road tax on it a year. I also own a road bike. I think a 1 litre Ford Fiesta does more damage to the surface of the road than my road bike would ever do. I don't know if I am right but, I also thought very little of the revenue collected from road tax was actually spent on maintaining roads anyway.

I would have thought that your road fund tax exempt 1ltr Ford fiesta would only damage the road surface, if you drive it like most boy twizzlers do on their bikes.

Yes, you are correct, very little revenue is used to repair/upkeep of the nations roads, so why cant you, as a cyclist, contribute to that waste, or do you see yourself as a special case(NOT you per se, cyclists as a whole)

 


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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 31 Jul 21 6.10pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

hope you have got insurance for the bike

Why would I need insurance?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 31 Jul 21 6.12pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

Why would I need insurance?

To protect yourself and pedestrians and vehicles.
Accidents happen after all.

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 31 Jul 21 6.15pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

I think the benefit of cost and health outweight the danger of being vulnerable on the road.

If your in your car you have protection until their is a heavy downpour and your car gets taken for a ride.

That's the downside from global warming I suppose

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 31 Jul 21 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

To protect yourself and pedestrians and vehicles.
Accidents happen after all.

The thing with insurance and paying a lot of money for your car is that you feel that you need to get your money's worth - drive down the end of your road to buy a paper ? Esp if it's raining ?

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 31 Jul 21 6.26pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Cyclists mainly are killed on the roads, especially in cities because, they have a total disregared for any & all rules of the road(Highway Code) & virtually every other road user.

The sooner cyclists take road tests, have 3rd party insurance, have bike mot's & pay a proportionate road fund tax, the better. Most people have no idea what a LVG or (full)PCV Drivers have to go through especially to drive in London. There are approx 8 different courses they have to go through & pass, if they want to drive in London, then every year they have to do them all again.

Car drivers & to date, van drivers dont have to do this

Maybe car and van drivers should have to do a cycle test around London to see what it is like to be a vulnerable cyclist in London?

Why not see both sides of the coin

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Edited by Vincehair (31 Jul 2021 6.32pm)

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 31 Jul 21 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

hope you have got insurance for the bike[/quote

I haven't got insurance - it ain't worth a lot but thanks for the advice

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 31 Jul 21 7.24pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

cyclists my way travel in packs at the weekend, sometimes 3-a-breast on windy country roads, blissfully ignorant of the huge tail-back of traffic they are causing.
Cycling may reduce the rider's carbon footprint, but they cause others to pollute far more.,,in my limited experience

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 31 Jul 21 8.31pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

Maybe car and van drivers should have to do a cycle test around London to see what it is like to be a vulnerable cyclist in London?

Why not see both sides of the coin

Edited by Vincehair (31 Jul 2021 6.26pm)

Edited by Vincehair (31 Jul 2021 6.32pm)

I have, several times, it's called the 'Urban Driving Test'. It's what we LGV & PCV drivers HAVE to take every year unlike cyclists who have no awareness of the road/pavements, no idea what the highway code is.

Sooner you, as cyclists do the same, the safer we ALL become

 


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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan 31 Jul 21 8.56pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

No one has paid road tax since the 30's

Good luck regulating the millions of under 16 wheelie kids who use the roads.

Regulating bicycles is a bit like regulating mp3's.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Aug 21 3.27am Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

No one has paid road tax since the 30's

Good luck regulating the millions of under 16 wheelie kids who use the roads.

Regulating bicycles is a bit like regulating mp3's.

Let"s forget the kids, just hit the lycra louts, especially those coming over London bridge at 5 pm, they can afford a ticket!

 

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