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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 02 Sep 21 10.27am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

From memory, it wasn't his ability people questioned, but the principal of not wanting to be Chelsea's blooding ground for young players.

That particular point is a valid one.

Still, overall we gain, at least for this season.

 


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Originally posted by silvertop

From memory, it wasn't his ability people questioned, but the principal of not wanting to be Chelsea's blooding ground for young players.

Yes, that was the case for some , but without trawling past pages, to prove the point, there were more than a few , that expressed a not impressed view. Some on the basis of his performance against us at Selhurst park. Some on the basis of he hadnít saved W. Brom, from relegation. Some thought his yellow card record was a reason to not have him.

Edited by Putitout (02 Sep 2021 10.43am)

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 02 Sep 21 10.43am Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

He is a good signing. Looking sharp in the training vid and dumped Macca on the floor when he dispossessed him.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Sep 21 10.45am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I think there may come a day when this is seen as the "steal of the window". I have yet to speak to a Watford supporter who isn't gutted that he left. Hughes is the sort of bread and butter, unspectacular "glue" player that really good clubs rely on; the sort who doesn't get the headlines and you only notice when he's not there. But then, boy do you notice him. Think Martin Hinshelwood if you're a long-term Palace fan.

As for Sissoko, I'd much rather have Hughes personally. Sissoko had a ten-minute spectacular period before signing for Spurs for a huge wedge and has done relatively little since to live up to the fee. He's the sort who's absolutely dominant when motivated and could be world-class if he had a mindset like Ronaldo but he doesn't and he isn't. He's motivated for a month or two once every couple of years. With Hughes, you get 80% of Sissoko's ability 100% of the time. With Sissoko, you get 60% of Sissoko's ability 40% of the time. The only place Sissoko is better than Hughes is on paper.

I canít remember if it was just at Newcastle but I heard a fact that Sissoko only scored high out of 10 when he played live on tv. Otherwise it was 6 or 5 or lower out of 10.

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 02 Sep 21 10.51am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Put another way, the meaning of the word "potential" is essentially someone who's never delivered. Hear the word applied to a player and you'd do well to run a mile. No one talks about Ronaldo's potential. Or Lukaku's potential. Or Kane's potential. They don't have to. But players who have underachieved time and time again, they're the ones we're told have "potential". In other words, potential = wasted talent.

Potential could - and should - be used when assessing young players only.
Get to 24/25 and a player no longer has Potential. he's either wasted it or fulfilled it.
there are exceptions, of course. but as a general rule this is the case.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 04 Sep 21 11.11am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Putitout

Yes, that was the case for some , but without trawling past pages, to prove the point, there were more than a few , that expressed a not impressed view. Some on the basis of his performance against us at Selhurst park. Some on the basis of he hadnít saved W. Brom, from relegation. Some thought his yellow card record was a reason to not have him.

Edited by Putitout (02 Sep 2021 10.43am)

I was one of those, (not the yellow cards) based on what I'd seen I thought he was energetic but lacked a bit of quality and he was really poor against us. I think he'd only managed a couple of goals as well. Signs so far are that he's plenty good enough for us and will be happy to be proven wrong.

With regard to Hughes I cant honestly say as I've not followed him much and have become less interested in other teams as I've got older. However, two friends who are very knowledgeable, and whose opinions I respect, tell me they think he's lightweight / ineffective. I've an open mind.

Given the opinions expressed on here about about how good Meyer, Riedewald, Mitchell and Mateta are / were I'm more inclined to listen to my mates.

 

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