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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 07 Sep 21 7.34pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

The first 'brexit' tax, probably several more to follow.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

1.25% point increase on employees’ and employers’ National Insurance Contributions, a 10% increase on current rates, to pay for state subsidised social care. Given that it’s only those employed and their employers that pay this tax and no one over 65, whether employed or not, pays it or not, is this fair? Unearned income such as rental profits, dividends, interest etc. not subject to NIC. A tax that only hits the younger, working, less wealthy population.

Given the demographic on here I’m sure you’re all delighted my generation will be working the next 30 years to pay for someone to wipe your arse in a couple of year’s time but thoughts on here? A manifesto pledge broken by Johnson but does anyone give a sh*t what he does or doesn’t do or say?

Edited by DanH (07 Sep 2021 5.37pm)

Personally fine with it. Something has to give – pretty much every public sector is chronically underfunded. Quite happy to pay an increase in tax – although the amount actually going to social care is tiny compared with what is being siphoned off for the NHS. Still, better than nothing.

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 07 Sep 21 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

The first 'brexit' tax, probably several more to follow.

I believe it's more likely to be a Covid 19 tax, as that is what was missing from the manifesto. Or is it better to break the "fix social care" pledge?

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Sep 21 7.42pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Wasn’t MMT supposed to be the answer?

 


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View punksnotdead's Profile punksnotdead Flag croydon 07 Sep 21 7.43pm Send a Private Message to punksnotdead Add punksnotdead as a friend

I think it's great that people who've worked hard all their lives now won't lose everything if they end up in care, shouldn't have put it on N.I but maybe guarantee a part of V.A.T for it so that everyone contributed.
Or maybe the £350,000,000 a week we were saving for the N.H.S due to brexit.

 

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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 07 Sep 21 7.44pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

We live in a society where the disparity between the poorest and richest is growing larger and larger. Wages in real terms have been stagnant for over 10 years and are yet to recover from the last financial crash.

Why then, can't we tax wealth instead of wages to better fund the NHS and Social Care?

That or we can just use the £350mil a week Vote Leave promised to give to the NHS when we left the EU to plug this gap.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 07 Sep 21 7.49pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I believe it's more likely to be a Covid 19 tax, as that is what was missing from the manifesto. Or is it better to break the "fix social care" pledge?

Covid is being used as a very convenient excuse to cover up the shambles of brexit and the very poor deal Johnson agreed to sign with the EU.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Sep 21 7.54pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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Yeah,yeah,yeah!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Sep 21 7.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by punksnotdead

I think it's great that people who've worked hard all their lives now won't lose everything if they end up in care, shouldn't have put it on N.I but maybe guarantee a part of V.A.T for it so that everyone contributed.
Or maybe the £350,000,000 a week we were saving for the N.H.S due to brexit.

I hadn’t even read the details. I assumed all the talk was about care in the community. Turns out it’s nobody pays more than £86,000 for their care from October 2023.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (07 Sep 2021 11.48pm)

 


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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 07 Sep 21 8.07pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Covid is being used as a very convenient excuse to cover up the shambles of brexit and the very poor deal Johnson agreed to sign with the EU.

Ah. Of course. You think that furlough and the shutdown of society cost nothing. Whereas in the real world, it cost plenty. And that money may be what is missing from the "fix social care" pledge. So a pledge must be broken. Which should it be, in your opinion?

Not that it matters anything to you, being an Anglophobe, and living in another country.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Sep 21 8.34pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

A manifesto pledge broken by Johnson but does anyone give a sh*t what he does or doesn’t do or say?

Edited by DanH (07 Sep 2021 5.37pm)

do you think that fella can give the rest of us a morality lesson ?

 


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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 07 Sep 21 8.36pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Ah. Of course. You think that furlough and the shutdown of society cost nothing. Whereas in the real world, it cost plenty. And that money may be what is missing from the "fix social care" pledge. So a pledge must be broken. Which should it be, in your opinion?

Not that it matters anything to you, being an Anglophobe, and living in another country.


Yep, the usual denial from the blinkered. Often looking in from the outside the real situation can be seen, it's called perspective of which you seem to have very little.

 


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