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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 09 Sep 21 2.01pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

yet again, working people are being hit hardest.

There might be some crumbs of comfort if Social Care was going to operate as it was intended to.

Even screwing the working person, is inevitably going to lead to a sharp decline in social services as the rich get richer.

I hope you aren"t jealous of the chancellor having £2 billion in his personal account, that might sound a lot but he has a family to take care of! That PPE money that they all shared out,£14 billion, wont go far with big houses to maintain and horses to keep! We are all in this together, I wish people would leave the upper classes alone, they work hard and deserve to get away with a bit of public money- its a right of passage!

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Online Flag SW2 09 Sep 21 2.24pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is not the fault of immigrants, you silly boy, it is the fault of politicians.

You cannot escape the fundamental causes no matter how much you or so called intellectuals try to dress it up.

In that case how do you feel about non-UK residents being allowed to buy UK residential property and not living in it? Or buy-to-let landlords allowed to have large property portfolios that reduce the supply available for others to purchase and actually live in it?

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 09 Sep 21 2.25pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I agree with you and this is very much a problem that needed to be solved. My nan is, and grandad was until he died recently, in a care home for the last few years so well aware of how crazily expensive it is.

I have no problem per se with the increase if it is being ring fenced; however I would have liked to have seen a different mechanism used to raise the funds in the early years - whether through a higher rate of income tax for higher earners, increasing CGT to be in line with income tax, or some sort of wealth tax (even though difficult in practice to do).

Bloody Imigrants, getting educated abroad at someone else's expense, then coming here, paying taxes, before f***ing back of f overseas to retire where its cheaper and they don't cause a tax burden.

The cheek of it.

Perhaps we could export our old people to warmer climates where houses and labour are cheap?

Still, it's almost a relief that politicians are no longer talking about either Brexit or Covid.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Sep 21 2.31pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Bloody Imigrants, getting educated abroad at someone else's expense, then coming here, paying taxes, before f***ing back of f overseas to retire where its cheaper and they don't cause a tax burden.

The cheek of it.

Perhaps we could export our old people to warmer climates where houses and labour are cheap?

Still, it's almost a relief that politicians are no longer talking about either Brexit or Covid.

That has been tried but Spain keeps on sending them back.

 


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Red and Blue Army!

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Sep 21 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

That has been tried but Spain keeps on sending them back.

Unless they robbed a bank before they went. Until recently anyway.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Sep 21 2.48pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Unless they robbed a bank before they went. Until recently anyway.

Ireland's drugs gangs went there. One got arrested the other day. Something like ten years later. It probably came as a bit of a shock.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Sep 21 2.57pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This is a good summary of everything that can influence house prices: [Link]

There is also a big impact on the market of foreign investors and buy-to-let landlords hoovering up UK housing stock as it constitutes a 'safe' investment and reducing the supply of houses available for UK residents to buy to actually live in, especially the younger generations without the capital to even put down a deposit.

I am not denying immigration is a factor - it increases demand. The birth/death rate also has to be factored into these numbers though when you are considering the population and local demand.

‘Since 2012, house prices have risen faster than inflation – despite a relatively weak economy. This is partly due to an ongoing shortage of supply and rising population.’

Partly? What are the net increases in population due to migration and what are the new home building figures? I’m curious as to where on the list immigration comes as a factor.

House prices 9 times salary in London is mental.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 09 Sep 21 3.40pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

So a rise in NI contributions will prevent the elderly and long-term sick from having to sell their homes to pay for care ?

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Sep 21 3.57pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

So a rise in NI contributions will prevent the elderly and long-term sick from having to sell their homes to pay for care ?

No. Well, yes, if they’re staying in a tent on common ground and the care staff go to them.

‘Care’ this week meant care, not the accommodation, food, utilities etc etc etc.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Sep 21 3.58pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

So a rise in NI contributions will prevent the elderly and long-term sick from having to sell their homes to pay for care ?

What about those who don't own their own home & are in council flats/houses etc OR even private rental?

 


Is now OFFICIALLY retired.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Sep 21 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

In that case how do you feel about non-UK residents being allowed to buy UK residential property and not living in it? Or buy-to-let landlords allowed to have large property portfolios that reduce the supply available for others to purchase and actually live in it?

How many properties does this account for?

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Sep 21 4.30pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How many properties does this account for?

The vast majority in zones 1 and 2, and increasing by the day in zones 3-6.

Most new developments in zones 1 and 2 are only advertised in Asia.

 

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