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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 26 Sep 21 10.31am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Thank you for all your pronouncements.

Just to be clear, if you voted Conservative you are racist, misogynistic, homophobic scum.

That is the sort of honest opinion that will help reverse the red wall results.

Ed Miliband is on now, presumably giving a summary of how to avoid inheritance tax by using a deed of variation.

Am hoping there will be a brawl at the conference, women with p****es vs women without

Rosie Duffield will not be there to see it


Edited by HKOwen (26 Sep 2021 10.34am)

 


A lie will travel half way around the world before the truth has got it's shoes on.

When conceited septuagenarians opine , best to ignore.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Sep 21 11.44am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Her statement sums up Labour's problem nicely.

She might think it but why say it?

She is pandering to a section of the Labour party who no doubt lapped it up.

However whilst this will go down a storm in Corbyn World the average voter who Labour needs to get elected will just think it a crass comment unworthy of a politician with aspirations to lead the party. It's student union speech.

So Starmer has feet of clay and lacks vision, despite his 11000 word essay, the alternative is Raynor who will be loved by the die hard activists but will not appeal to the voters outside the London bubble.

Edited by Badger11 (26 Sep 2021 11.45am)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Sep 21 11.49am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Thank you for all your pronouncements.

Just to be clear, if you voted Conservative you are racist, misogynistic, homophobic scum.

That is the sort of honest opinion that will help reverse the red wall results.

Ed Miliband is on now, presumably giving a summary of how to avoid inheritance tax by using a deed of variation.

Am hoping there will be a brawl at the conference, women with p****es vs women without

Rosie Duffield will not be there to see it


Edited by HKOwen (26 Sep 2021 10.34am)

You are not at all clear. You are confused.

Without wishing to defend the use of injudicious language, if you decide to attack it, then it would be better to do so accurately.

She did NOT describe those who voted Conservative that way. She was describing Tory Ministers, using robust terms. Terms and sentiments that may well resonate with those "red wall" voters now having second thoughts, as the implications of their actions sink in. So at least you are right with the probable consequences.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 26 Sep 21 11.56am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's how the majority of Labour's membership base see things so it is at least a fair reflection of the party....if not perhaps most who vote for it.

My uncle had voted Labour all his life stopped voting Labour over Brexit....It was painful for him and I don't see the Rayner types winning him back.

The problem with Labour is that being an activist party means you turn off the independent voters. Personally, while being completely anti woke I admire their honesty.

I actually do want parties that reflect their memberships rather than leaderships that disappoint them.

It isn't a roadmap to winning elections though as essentially the public want what the media tell them to want.

Starmer wants to do the Blair thing and taylor fit his party to the corporate media's desires, like Johnson has done.....and as you'd expect his party aren't too happy about it....just as the Tory base aren't happy with Johnson....hell even his own MPs aren't.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Sep 21 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are not at all clear. You are confused.

Without wishing to defend the use of injudicious language, if you decide to attack it, then it would be better to do so accurately.

She did NOT describe those who voted Conservative that way. She was describing Tory Ministers, using robust terms. Terms and sentiments that may well resonate with those "red wall" voters now having second thoughts, as the implications of their actions sink in. So at least you are right with the probable consequences.

Funny you see it this way because surveys say Labour are well behind the tories with voting intentions, and thatís probably after fixing the surveys.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 26 Sep 21 12.09pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Thank you for all your pronouncements.

Just to be clear, if you voted Conservative you are racist, misogynistic, homophobic scum.

That is the sort of honest opinion that will help reverse the red wall results.

Ed Miliband is on now, presumably giving a summary of how to avoid inheritance tax by using a deed of variation.

Am hoping there will be a brawl at the conference, women with p****es vs women without

Rosie Duffield will not be there to see it


Edited by HKOwen (26 Sep 2021 10.34am)

'Just to be clear, if you voted Conservative you are racist, misogynistic, homophobic scum'.

Rayner did not say that, she was attacking Johnsons govt. and made this clear.

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 26 Sep 21 12.31pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Just to be clear, if you voted Conservative you are racist, misogynistic, homophobic scum'.

Rayner did not say that, she was attacking Johnsons govt. and made this clear.

Johnsonís government only exists because a sufficient number of the electorate voted to put it there.

So, by simple association, yes she is saying exactly that.


 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 26 Sep 21 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

Johnsonís government only exists because a sufficient number of the electorate voted to put it there.

So, by simple association, yes she is saying exactly that.

Extrapolation of the truth. ^^ Rayner was talking about tory Ministers and Johnson.
And it's got her more headlines and discussions than Starmer's had all year.

 


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View Pembroke's Profile Pembroke Flag Bristol 26 Sep 21 1.31pm Send a Private Message to Pembroke Add Pembroke as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Just to be clear, if you voted Conservative you are racist, misogynistic, homophobic scum'.

Rayner did not say that, she was attacking Johnsons govt. and made this clear.

And what will the Tory spin machine do with that? What will right wing media do with that?

YOU people vote for? An implication is present.

Its free ammunition.

As a Labour voter the leader should have condemned her remarks publicly.

Edited by Pembroke (26 Sep 2021 1.32pm)

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 26 Sep 21 1.35pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Extrapolation of the truth. ^^ Rayner was talking about tory Ministers and Johnson.
And it's got her more headlines and discussions than Starmer's had all year.

And shown herself to be a thoroughly uncouth, unpleasant and ill-mannered individual, in my opinion.

And sheís a ginge.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Sep 21 1.50pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Funny you see it this way because surveys say Labour are well behind the tories with voting intentions, and thatís probably after fixing the surveys.

I don't doubt that's true. Labour have a very long road to travel, so that's much more to do with Corbyn's legacy than satisfaction with the Tories. The Tories could be led by a complete idiot and not yet be under threat, so Johnson is safe for now, as, although he is a long way from being competent, he isn't a complete idiot. Which is a very sad reflection on the state of British politics.

We so need the formation of a new centre ground party around which the bulk of the British population could begin to build a consensus.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Sep 21 1.51pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


what i love about Labour is they always shoot themselves in the Foot. The michael Foot.

unelectable idiots.

Corbyn, Ken Livingston, etc etc...... looney lefties all.

And of course the vile feminist, the Man-hater that is Jess Phillips. Follow the link below and see the heart and soul of the Labour Party.

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