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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 25 Oct 21 12.10pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Thought I'd Wage in on the Benteke Oduard debate!

Benteke Looks like a new player in this system, he is benefiting no end by us playing more up the pitch. in an RH team his only job was to receive long balls and head flick ons - he settled into this role, And now has to remember how to play in PV's way.
he's now playing much better. the last 2 games his movement has been better, he's making the runs for crosses, and link up play too has been good.
I saw enough in the 433 of OE, CB and MO to be very encouraged. Happy to stick with that. CB and OE linked up well, and it's still early days for OE, love his directness and running, and appears to know where the goal is. There's a reason CB had all 6 chances - that's his strength, not OEs. Saying that on another day, it could have been OE who all the chances fell to.
No idea where WZ fits into this.
CB is showing signs, but he really needs to start scoring. missed some sitters on saturday.

This is the Benteke Conundrum. Do we persist with him? We've given him so many chances now through lack of other options. This new system - and OE coming in as competition - does seem to have made him more effective. In a perfect world his chance creation rate is better. but at least now he's getting those chances.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Oct 21 12.54pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

A striker who cannot score, or scores after 8 chances wouldn’t get the nod from me.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 25 Oct 21 8.01pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

How many times do you need telling, Edouard can play anywhere across the front line, he isn’t a one trick pony. Benteke will continue to be the main striker in the majority of games.

He may be able to play all across the front three but his best position is CF finishing the chances, that Benteke misses

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 25 Oct 21 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

He may be able to play all across the front three but his best position is CF finishing the chances, that Benteke misses

He played on the left side at PSG and France U23s, but you seem think differently.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 26 Oct 21 4.52am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

He played on the left side at PSG and France U23s, but you seem think differently.

At Celtic he played 145 games at CF scoring 75 goals, at PSG he played no games on the left wing, he never played for the French U23 at all, he did play 14 games for the French U21 team, playing 14 games and scoring 17 goals at CF, do some research before making yourself look foolish

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

At Celtic he played 145 games at CF scoring 75 goals, at PSG he played no games on the left wing, he never played for the French U23 at all, he did play 14 games for the French U21 team, playing 14 games and scoring 17 goals at CF, do some research before making yourself look foolish

I wonder how the signing of Edouard actually went:
SP -"Congratulations all round! Well Eddy, welcome to the club and the Premiership!"
E - "Thank you Steve. I've am very happy to be here and to score many goals for Crystal Palace as centre forward!"
SP - "Er about that Eddy.."

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 26 Oct 21 8.39am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Maybe some truth in there but I have to say that against Sandcastle the deft passing between our forwards on the edge of their box was better & more decisive than I have seen it (for some considerable time)

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I wonder how the signing of Edouard actually went:
SP -"Congratulations all round! Well Eddy, welcome to the club and the Premiership!"
E - "Thank you Steve. I've am very happy to be here and to score many goals for Crystal Palace as centre forward!"
SP - "Er about that Eddy.."

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Oct 21 9.29am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

All ifs and buts, but if Edouard had Bentekes chances on Saturday, I think he would have scored from the 1 v. 1 with the 'keeper. I don't think he would have won the header that Benteke scored from and maybe not the others that hit the post and bar.

It's easy to critisise Benteke given his goal scoring stats over the last few years. But if you forget about the past and instead look at the here and now, I think, as I posted before, we are starting to see some real positives from him.

I doubt that there are funds available to spend on another striker in January, so we need a sharp, motivated Benteke. And I think he has it in him to be just that.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 26 Oct 21 9.47am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

At Celtic he played 145 games at CF scoring 75 goals, at PSG he played no games on the left wing, he never played for the French U23 at all, he did play 14 games for the French U21 team, playing 14 games and scoring 17 goals at CF, do some research before making yourself look foolish

Before you start calling people foolish, you need to check the stats you quote, they are all wrong, which is no surprise.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 26 Oct 21 10.37am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Before you start calling people foolish, you need to check the stats you quote, they are all wrong, which is no surprise.

No, they are all right

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 26 Oct 21 10.38am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

You clearly haven't got a clue, maybe you pull your stats out of thin air

 


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He has only player on the left wing 4 times, for Celtic when Ange Postecoglou was manager, and twice at Palace

 


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