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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 May 22 10.21pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

It doesn't take long to unravel.

Sunaks windfall tax will actually benefit oil and gas companies.

Shell for example can practically avoid the tax by re-investing, that means more fossil fuels.

There is nothing green about it and it further increases doubts about net zero.

The UKs energy plan is hopeless and this does nothing to rectify it.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Online Flag Hong Kong 26 May 22 11.10pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Perhaps the ideologues on here will decline the payments from yesterday's announcement.

However it was arrived at, it is helping with energy bills.

Never seen so many noses cut off to spite faces.

The Labour plan was a simple tax with no investment incentives.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Online Flag Hong Kong 26 May 22 11.14pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It doesn't take long to unravel.

Sunaks windfall tax will actually benefit oil and gas companies.

Shell for example can practically avoid the tax by re-investing, that means more fossil fuels.

There is nothing green about it and it further increases doubts about net zero.

The UKs energy plan is hopeless and this does nothing to rectify it.

It would follow that you think it is reasonable to have energy bills hiked up by 20/25% in green levies/taxes in the current situation of spiralling prices .

If you really think that the UK has any influence on emissions by it's policies and actions then I would disagree. China , India and the US will not be influenced by what action the UK takes. UK emissions are falling, global emissions are rising.

Edited by HKOwen (26 May 2022 11.15pm)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 May 22 6.18am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It doesn't take long to unravel.

Sunaks windfall tax will actually benefit oil and gas companies.

Shell for example can practically avoid the tax by re-investing, that means more fossil fuels.

There is nothing green about it and it further increases doubts about net zero.

The UKs energy plan is hopeless and this does nothing to rectify it.

The worlds energy/environmental plan is hopeless. If it meant sooooo much to go green it would be done for free by every government. Follow the money

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 22 2.06pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Lib Dem Leader is suggesting an electoral pact with Labour at the next GE.

I don't have a problem with that as long as they spell it out to the voters before hand. The last time they did this they betrayed their core vote by abounding the abolition of tuition fees after getting the votes.

Coalitions or pacts are fine as long as the voters know what to expect.

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 28 May 22 4.20pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Lib Dem Leader is suggesting an electoral pact with Labour at the next GE.

I don't have a problem with that as long as they spell it out to the voters before hand. The last time they did this they betrayed their core vote by abounding the abolition of tuition fees after getting the votes.

Coalitions or pacts are fine as long as the voters know what to expect.

We know what to expect allright - even more Woke than Labour on its own.

 

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W12 28 May 22 4.28pm

Unfortunately most left wing people (not all) cannot make the connection between the woke agenda and why the elite are pushing it so hard to the point of tyranny.

There are left wing voices like Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand and to a certain extent Joe Rogan that are starting to though.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 28 May 22 4.31pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Unfortunately most left wing people (not all) cannot make the connection between the woke agenda and why the elite are pushing it so hard to the point of tyranny.

There are left wing voices like Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand and to a certain extent Joe Rogan that are starting to though.

It's one of the reasons Labour will struggle to win a general election, even against the current clown-car Tories.

 

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W12 28 May 22 4.57pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

It's one of the reasons Labour will struggle to win a general election, even against the current clown-car Tories.

There is literally nobody to vote for that would act in the interests of the average person. That’s true across Europe and the anglosphere. At the same time most of our “leaders” are unpopular to the point that they are often jeered or booed in public and have to be constantly shielded by highly armed police units.

Edited by W12 (28 May 2022 5.33pm)

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 28 May 22 5.29pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by W12

There is literally nobody to vote that would act in the interests of the average person. That’s trues across Europe and the anglosphere. At the same time most of our “leaders” are unpopular to the point that they are often jeered or booed in public and have to be constantly shielded by highly armed police units.

Try the SDP [Link]

or, is there a I Love Putin and his Haircut Party?

 

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W12 28 May 22 5.33pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Try the SDP [Link]

or, is there a I Love Putin and his Haircut Party?

I know and like the SDP but I haven’t seen a candidate in any election I’ve voted in so far.

I can ignore the Putin stuff, I’m sure you’ll work it out. At least I hope so.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 28 May 22 5.35pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by W12

I know and like the SDP but I haven’t seen a candidate in any election I’ve voted in so far.

I can ignore the Putin stuff, I’m sure you’ll work it out. At least I hope so.

I tiny glimmer of hope for you yet then.

 

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