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Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Owners are meeting today to discuss the recent Covid issues in the PL. Suspect this will also be discussed. There was reticence to release players for this tournament before recent issues, this may well be higher now.

Trouble is, the PL haven't got a say in stopping players going, that, is down to FIFA. Afcon a a bone-fide FIFA tournement.

 


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Originally posted by Goal Machine

You have a real obsession with three at the back.

I knew a bird like that once

 


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As things stand there is no need to rush Eze, back , as the team is ticking over nicely, in most respects now. Letting in 24goals, has stopped us. from being top six mind, improve that and we are cooking on gas.
Along side of this is we have become a side that works harder on a much higher press.,
this doesn’t suit Eze, yet IMHO, he is on the ball a very talented player , off it ,more work to do, and this makes him one for later more than sooner. As happens in football it is a matter of style to a fair degree , at the minute to fit Viera,s style of play perfectly , he might not , even in the long run be best used in the same way he was under Roy..
More than anything else he had a very nasty injury, and right now he would probably be better putting the work in to improve his all round game away from the intensity of first team duty. He is young of enormous potential,.Everyone’s patience is needed, including his own.
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Originally posted by Putitout

As things stand there is no need to rush Eze, back , as the team is ticking over nicely, in most respects now. Letting in 24goals, has stopped us. from being top six mind, improve that and we are cooking on gas.
Along side of this is we have become a side that works harder on a much higher press.,
this doesn’t suit Eze, yet IMHO, he is on the ball a very talented player , off it ,more work to do, and this makes him one for later more than sooner. As happens in football it is a matter of style to a fair degree , at the minute to fit Viera,s style of play perfectly , he might not , even in the long run be best used in the same way he was under Roy..
More than anything else he had a very nasty injury, and right now he would probably be better putting the work in to improve his all round game away from the intensity of first team duty. He is young of enormous potential,.Everyone’s patience is needed, including his own.
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I would largely agree.

Personally I would have wanted to see some little cameos in the last coupe of games. Either as a wide forward or in the middle (e.g. giving CG a break against Southampton)


 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 21 Dec 21 7.15pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

A few factors appear relevant.

Physically, Eze hasn't played for eight months or so, hasn't done a pre season and only returned to contact training a few weeks ago while everyone else has been playing Premier league football for months. Eze could have done a million sit ups and laps of the pool during rehab, it won't make him match fit, especially compared to everyone else mid-season.

Strategically, the team is doing really well without him so there is no obvious reason to push him back into the starting XI straight away. God knows we've had plenty of periods where we desperately needed a particular player back from injury to change our form (Zaha mostly) but this isn't one of them.

Selection-wise Gallagher is pulling up trees right now, and he's the obvious player Eze would replace. I know Eze and Gallagher could both play with one holding midfielder behind them, but I think Vieira prefers one attacking midfielder, one to hold and one to do a bit of both. If Eze plays, then either the midfield dynamics change or Gallagher drops deeper, and why do that at the moment?

Tactically, and as others have observed, Eze isn't one for chasing people down in the way Vieira perhaps likes. More to the point I think, Eze likes to hold onto the ball and that slows the passing down. I shouldn't think any of this is fatal. Vieira appears adaptable, and Eze will surely enjoy playing for him, so no big drama.

Overall, he'll play when the manager decides it's best for the team, and in time play very well I'm certain.

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People are talking like Gallagher is our player, He has 21 league games left before he leaves, obviously he is a good player but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of him being at Palace next season, Eze is the future for our club and i have a horrible feeling he is going to spend a lot of time sitting on the Bench, He could be a Target for Newcastle, his 30k a week could go to 200k, he will get pissed off if he doesn't get game time soon

 


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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

A few factors appear relevant.

Physically, Eze hasn't played for eight months or so, hasn't done a pre season and only returned to contact training a few weeks ago while everyone else has been playing Premier league football for months. Eze could have done a million sit ups and laps of the pool during rehab, it won't make him match fit, especially compared to everyone else mid-season.

Strategically, the team is doing really well without him so there is no obvious reason to push him back into the starting XI straight away. God knows we've had plenty of periods where we desperately needed a particular player back from injury to change our form (Zaha mostly) but this isn't one of them.

Selection-wise Gallagher is pulling up trees right now, and he's the obvious player Eze would replace. I know Eze and Gallagher could both play with one holding midfielder behind them, but I think Vieira prefers one attacking midfielder, one to hold and one to do a bit of both. If Eze plays, then either the midfield dynamics change or Gallagher drops deeper, and why do that at the moment?

Tactically, and as others have observed, Eze isn't one for chasing people down in the way Vieira perhaps likes. More to the point I think, Eze likes to hold onto the ball and that slows the passing down. I shouldn't think any of this is fatal. Vieira appears adaptable, and Eze will surely enjoy playing for him, so no big drama.

Overall, he'll play when the manager decides it's best for the team, and in time play very well I'm certain.

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Edited by TheBigToePunt (21 Dec 2021 7.22pm)

Well said

 

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

People are talking like Gallagher is our player, He has 21 league games left before he leaves, obviously he is a good player but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of him being at Palace next season, Eze is the future for our club and i have a horrible feeling he is going to spend a lot of time sitting on the Bench, He could be a Target for Newcastle, his 30k a week could go to 200k, he will get pissed off if he doesn't get game time soon

I hear your concerns but I am hoping and doubting that anyone would risk taking him on at this stage with his historic injury. If you look at him he has a big strong build with large very muscular legs. Physically this could be why the injury occurred. Don’t forget he is not due back till January. We are clearly not taking any chances. Such is the benefit of a reasonably sized squad with a loan player as good as Gallagher as lynch pin to our season.
Just speculating, but where would we be if Newcastle turned up in January with £70m? Any of our players offered 200k/ week on say a 4 year contract even to move that far north would surely consider it.
Perish the thought.


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

People are talking like Gallagher is our player, He has 21 league games left before he leaves, obviously he is a good player but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of him being at Palace next season, Eze is the future for our club and i have a horrible feeling he is going to spend a lot of time sitting on the Bench, He could be a Target for Newcastle, his 30k a week could go to 200k, he will get pissed off if he doesn't get game time soon

And Newcastle are giving us how much for him?

 

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

People are talking like Gallagher is our player, He has 21 league games left before he leaves, obviously he is a good player but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of him being at Palace next season, Eze is the future for our club and i have a horrible feeling he is going to spend a lot of time sitting on the Bench, He could be a Target for Newcastle, his 30k a week could go to 200k, he will get pissed off if he doesn't get game time soon

Given Gallagher's performances, PV is hardly likely to drop him - indeed he would be mad to so. But is that is what you are implying ? That he should, in favour of Eze ??

Eze is still on a comeback journey which is far from complete. For that reason alone, it's not likely that Newcastle, to use your example, would invest in a player still a long way from being 100% match fit. And then pitch him straight into a relegation battle.

 


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Originally posted by NEILLO

Given Gallagher's performances, PV is hardly likely to drop him - indeed he would be mad to so. But is that is what you are implying ? That he should, in favour of Eze ??

Eze is still on a comeback journey which is far from complete. For that reason alone, it's not likely that Newcastle, to use your example, would invest in a player still a long way from being 100% match fit. And then pitch him straight into a relegation battle.

I disagree completely, He is exactly the type of player Newcastle are looking for a 60m bid, and he will be gone

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

People are talking like Gallagher is our player, He has 21 league games left before he leaves, obviously he is a good player but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of him being at Palace next season, Eze is the future for our club and i have a horrible feeling he is going to spend a lot of time sitting on the Bench, He could be a Target for Newcastle, his 30k a week could go to 200k, he will get pissed off if he doesn't get game time soon


1. I believe it to be unlikely that Gallagher will be available for loan next season if he carries on the way he has been playing, but stranger things have happened.

2. Having listened to his in depth interview when he was still in rehab Eze struck me as that rare person - humble, thankful for what he has been able to do and patient. I don't see him throwing his toys out of the pram and rushing off elsewhere in a huff if he doesn't get game time. Furthermore, I think Vieira has good man=management skills and will make sure Eze is looked after properly and given game time when fully ready and appropriate.

 

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