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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Norfolk 27 Dec 21 7.54am Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

It can't be a player who is only going to be here for one season, Zaha is always a target and no one can ever imagine the frustration he must feel.

He's paid circa £5m per year and he's a professional.
He really needs to understand what that means FFS.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 27 Dec 21 8.24am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Sansbup

He's paid circa £5m per year and he's a professional.
He really needs to understand what that means FFS.

Wilf has earned 41m in wages from us, he owes responsibility, professional attitude and maturity, we owe him nothing

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Dec 21 8.34am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

You hear stories about players doing this deliberately normally so they can enjoy Christmas, a bit late for that so not sure what Wilf is up to.

Poor show Wilf you let your team and yourself down.

 


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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 27 Dec 21 9.38am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I had come to terms with Wilfs petulance. I accepted it as part of his make up, his DNA. Take that side away and who knows what would be left...

However yesterday does concern me.

His overall performance was unbelievably poor. When he got the first Yellow I said to my son, he's heading for a Red. I just didn't think it would happen so quickly.

I think he's at a career crossroads. He's lost a bit of pace but he still has the ability to be an integral part of the team. Whether he wants to be is another question. He had his house up for sale recently and I don't know what to read into that - doesn't necessarily mean he's leaving Palace.

On balance, I would like him to stay. But it's fair to say that I would be nowhere near as disappointed if he left as I would have been a couple of years ago

I agree with all of this. His game has definitely changed. He has lost that pace to go by his opponent, rarely attempts to beat his player any more. However he has chipped in with goals. Id much rather he stay but we are in such a better position now as a club to manage his departure if indeed that happened. I would have hoped that the burden of carrying the club over the last few years being lifted somewhat may have given Wilf some freedom but perhaps we’ve just seen the best of Wilf or at least the Wilf of before who terrorised defenders on the wing and beating players for fun. Maybe he has just transitioned into a different style now. He’s been beaten up by defenders his whole career and carried this team for years you could understand it if this was contributing to his game needing to change at 29.

With regards to his sending off, yes refs are gunning for him but he makes it so easy for them. The push for the second yellow was just plain stupid. He should be using his brain at 29. The frustration or passion is just way OTT.

For me he’s the best I’ve seen - but I just think he’s on a natural cycle of his ability reducing slightly. Still an amazing player but perhaps our expectations need to be reduced too. He’s not the player he was anymore.

Edited by MonsterMunch (27 Dec 2021 9.39am)

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 27 Dec 21 9.42am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

It seems to me that he has a lot a bit of his pace which was a key factor in getting away from defenders and enabled Wilf to on occasions just run past them rather than trying to beat them through footwork.
If he’s conscious that he has lost a pit of pace it may be why he seems to have adapted his game and seems far easier to mark out of the game.
This could contribute to the frustration he continually exhibits on the field.
You can never predict when players ‘go ever the edge.’
Puncheon’s form seemed to drop off a cliff over a relatively short period.
He went from being touted to be an England candidate to a shambling, lethargic midfield presence in a couple of seasons.
Alex Ferguson was renowned for observing the tipping point for players and would discard and replace them at the tipping point.
Obviously I’m not suggesting we are in a position to discard Wilf and he remains a fine athlete.
I doubt we’ll see him at his electrifying best again though.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 27 Dec 21 9.52am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I think the only thing I would change on the below is -
he still has the ability to be an integral part of "a" team ( whether thats going to be "this" team or another remains to be seen)


Originally posted by NEILLO

I had come to terms with Wilfs petulance. I accepted it as part of his make up, his DNA. Take that side away and who knows what would be left...

However yesterday does concern me.

His overall performance was unbelievably poor. When he got the first Yellow I said to my son, he's heading for a Red. I just didn't think it would happen so quickly.

I think he's at a career crossroads. He's lost a bit of pace but he still has the ability to be an integral part of the team. Whether he wants to be is another question. He had his house up for sale recently and I don't know what to read into that - doesn't necessarily mean he's leaving Palace.

On balance, I would like him to stay. But it's fair to say that I would be nowhere near as disappointed if he left as I would have been a couple of years ago

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 27 Dec 21 11.02am

Clearly an asset but also a liability at times. he certainly screwed this game up for us anyway.

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 27 Dec 21 11.07am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

He seemed Ok to me today, he was fouled constantly along with Ayew and the officials seemed to have much fun ignoring their plight as usual, he has always had issues with the abuse he receives and today was no worse, both bookings were completely over the top and unnecessary from a ref clearly out of his depth, red cards do nothing but destroy a competitive game for everyone watching and I feel the rules need to change by introducing the sin bin, why should the other ten players, management, staff and thousands of fans suffer from the actions of one individual who needs to be dealt with by an independent body who decide after watching the game again the proper punishment for them, this also includes players like Kane who get away with a red on the pitch only to find themselves being dealt with off it.

Can't agree that he was even OK today. Every pass went astray, easily dispossessed, no pace, no enthusiasm. Awful.

Hasn't he been involved in some housing scam...might be playing on his mind.....just trying to come up with some reason he's bee so poor lately...

Edited by spartakev2 (27 Dec 2021 12.59pm)

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Online Flag Crowborough 27 Dec 21 11.12am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

I had come round to the opinion that we might as well keep him now because he has the occasional flash of something special and who on earth is going to pay top dollar for him now he’s lost his pace, is almost 30 and is on circa £130K per week.

However, having been utter toilet for most of the season and after yesterday’s appalling show I would sooner be rid of this petulant ‘has been’ who is currently stealing a wage from us and who is actually now just a distraction and holding us back.

Get him gone to Newcastle for £20M and reinvest the wages in some decent younger players.

Edited by Phil’s Barber (27 Dec 2021 11.14am)

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Dec 21 11.14am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

I think the suggestion that we cut our losses (whatever those are) are a bit premature.

Nobody knows how long Eze will take to get back to full fitness. Aside from Gallagher he remains our only serious goal threat not forgetting the chances he recently put on a plate for Edouard and Benteke.

A few weeks ago he got the goals that gave us back to back wins against City and Wolves.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (27 Dec 2021 11.16am)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 27 Dec 21 11.21am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


attacking players who try to dribble and keep the ball will always draw a lot of fouls.

the problem is that referees know that Wilf sulks and frowns. So they reward him very few fouls & punishments to the opposition.

the red card yesterday ? its been in the post for quite a while. There could be many more red cards. In which case, Wilf is a liability.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Dec 21 11.26am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

He seemed Ok to me today, he was fouled constantly along with Ayew and the officials seemed to have much fun ignoring their plight as usual, he has always had issues with the abuse he receives and today was no worse, both bookings were completely over the top and unnecessary from a ref clearly out of his depth, red cards do nothing but destroy a competitive game for everyone watching and I feel the rules need to change by introducing the sin bin, why should the other ten players, management, staff and thousands of fans suffer from the actions of one individual who needs to be dealt with by an independent body who decide after watching the game again the proper punishment for them, this also includes players like Kane who get away with a red on the pitch only to find themselves being dealt with off it.


Before VAR, this is what the FA did, i believe they called it 'Retrospective Punishment' or trial by TV, of which Sky & the bbc took great delight in highlighting who they wanted punished after the match(es) had finished.

 


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