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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Jan 22 2.15pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Jean Phillipe is an ebony God.

I tremble when he kicks the corner flag.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 07 Jan 22 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Jean Phillipe is an ebony God.

I tremble when he kicks the corner flag.

If only he got that close to the goal on a regular basis.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Jan 22 10.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I have read that we are unable to offload him, even if we want to, because no-one is prepared to meet more than 1/3rd of his wages.

 

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View crystal-purley's Profile crystal-purley Flag Purley 07 Jan 22 10.43pm Send a Private Message to crystal-purley Add crystal-purley as a friend

We have 4 strikers none of whom really threaten the opposition goal except occasionally. Let go of Mateta and try to sell Benteke which leaves Ayew who we leave as a winger/striker/no 10 and play Wilf at no 9 as he can score. in reality we play Benteke up front and hope he connects sometimes.
realistically we play Wilf on the right as he is right footed and play Benteke or Ayew (who is more mobile) in the middle and Eze on the left which should improve the number of balls into the area.

 


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View redshift's Profile redshift Flag Toronto 08 Jan 22 12.15am Send a Private Message to redshift Add redshift as a friend

My own 2c on this.
He was good for us in his first loan but less so on his second. When played recently (under Roy) he's almost always been offside when around goal when it counted.
To me he is someone who would benefit from some coaching but I think he's not getting any. He's just being left on his own to 'do something'. Not a great recipe for success.
This makes me think that under PV, if he takes him under his wing, he can turn into something really special.
He wants to succeed, that's obvious but are we willing to put the money and time into getting him there?
I'd like to give him a look. Not sure if PV wants to go that route but there's potential there and if coached properly maybe could become something great for us.
This is a big risk I get it, but I'll go with whatever PV decides.

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 08 Jan 22 9.49am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by redshift

My own 2c on this.
He was good for us in his first loan but less so on his second. When played recently (under Roy) he's almost always been offside when around goal when it counted.
To me he is someone who would benefit from some coaching but I think he's not getting any. He's just being left on his own to 'do something'. Not a great recipe for success.
This makes me think that under PV, if he takes him under his wing, he can turn into something really special.
He wants to succeed, that's obvious but are we willing to put the money and time into getting him there?
I'd like to give him a look. Not sure if PV wants to go that route but there's potential there and if coached properly maybe could become something great for us.
This is a big risk I get it, but I'll go with whatever PV decides.


There has only been the one loan - an 18 month one which started last January.

I'm not at all sure where you get the idea he's been left on his own. Both Vieira and Roberts have spoken of how hard Mateta has been working in training and how patient. Also when was Mateta always getting offside under Hodgson? You aren't by any chance confusing him with Batshuayi who did have two loan spells with us and was often caught offside?

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 08 Jan 22 10.18am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


There has only been the one loan - an 18 month one which started last January.

I'm not at all sure where you get the idea he's been left on his own. Both Vieira and Roberts have spoken of how hard Mateta has been working in training and how patient. Also when was Mateta always getting offside under Hodgson? You aren't by any chance confusing him with Batshuayi who did have two loan spells with us and was often caught offside?

If we can get the same money for Benteke to cover Matata's cost then we should keep him, Benteke is Rubbish and 31, Mateta is 23 and might be good, if not we can sell him later, simples

 



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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 08 Jan 22 11.33am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

If we can get the same money for Benteke to cover Matata's cost then we should keep him, Benteke is Rubbish and 31, Mateta is 23 and might be good, if not we can sell him later, simples

This is like one of my wifes clear outs,which sh!t to keep and which sh!t to throw out. Both go without question.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 08 Jan 22 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by beak

This is like one of my wifes clear outs,which sh!t to keep and which sh!t to throw out. Both go without question.

Mateta is not s***, his movement is good and he doesn't get caught offside as much, as of B..............

 



Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your hometown
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 Jan 22 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by beak

This is like one of my wifes clear outs,which sh!t to keep and which sh!t to throw out. Both go without question.

A mate of mind would never dump his current girlfriend until he had a new one, he did this many times.

Leaving aside the morality it makes sense with players. You never know how could the incoming one is so maybe you want to hang on to the existing one until you are sure.

 


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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 08 Jan 22 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

My 2c worth - JP scored against Brighton (at the end of Feb) - Happy days -

The next time I really saw him was in pre season this year where he was unfit & way off the pace, but I saw / heard several times people saying that he had been quite unwell (no idea if it was covid / injury)

To see him re-emerge in these last few games has actually been a surprise (I thought we had already booked his plane ticket)

On the strength of these last few games where he is still unquestionably trying to fit into the managers game plan (a work in progress if you will) I would honestly keep him -

If that overhead against WH had gone in I am sure that there would be more in this camp too.

 

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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 08 Jan 22 4.27pm Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

Agreed…He is more effective than Benteke.

I think he is a good prospect and certainly seems to be enjoying his football.

Knowing our luck, we ship him out and he goes on to be a £50million pound player.

 

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