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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 11 Jan 22 10.29am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO


Currently we have two players of similar style in Benteke and Mateta. If you subscribe to the view that they don't suit our style of play then surely it's more cost effective to not play the £13m for Mateta , send him back and keep Benteke as we don't need both.

The squad needs further work and that will come in the summer. I think we are largely ok with what we have to get us through this season. The main question seems to be around exiting Mateta and possibly bringing in Nketiah.


1. Although Benteke and Mateta are similar types of players, I suggest the latter is far more mobile than the former. He really stretched out his neck to get his head to Olise's cross for the winner against Millwall. I couldn't imagine Benteke doing that. He wouldn't have got to it IMO.

2. I agree with your comments re our current squad being able to see us through the season and that the main question is the one about Mateta v Nketiah. Re the latter, I'm wondering if he's delaying in the hope he'll feature in the two Carabao cup semis against Liverpool. If Arsenal win, he may want to stay in the hope of featuring in the final and possibly winning a cup medal. If they lose he may then leave in what remains of this window.

 

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View Philís Barber's Profile Philís Barber Flag Crowborough 11 Jan 22 11.39am Send a Private Message to Philís Barber Add Philís Barber as a friend

Nketiah is not the answer to our striker issues and lack of goals and I hope to high heaven that he isnít being lined up as Bentekeís replacement (even though I am more than happy for Benteke to be off loaded).

Edited by Philís Barber (11 Jan 2022 11.40am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Jan 22 11.59am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Philís Barber

Nketiah is not the answer to our striker issues and lack of goals and I hope to high heaven that he isnít being lined up as Bentekeís replacement (even though I am more than happy for Benteke to be off loaded).

Edited by Philís Barber (11 Jan 2022 11.40am)

If PV is trying to develop a Man City II team then we are looking for a mobile tricky striker who can play across the front. Benteke certainly doesn't fill that role. I haven't seen enough of Nketiah but presumable PV has so we have to trust his judgement.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 11 Jan 22 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

I think Amazon are recruiting at the moment, but he probably drop everything

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 11 Jan 22 1.25pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I think Amazon are recruiting at the moment, but he probably drop everything

He'd be ok until it got to the box

 


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View Speronilover69 8=D~~'s Profile Speronilover69 8=D~~ Flag Horsham 11 Jan 22 1.53pm Send a Private Message to Speronilover69 8=D~~ Add Speronilover69 8=D~~ as a friend

I don't agree that Benteke and Mateta don't suit our style of play. We have plenty of nippy, skilful strikers at the club (Zaha, Ayew, Edouard) yet PV continually opts to go with a target man. It seems like the plan under PV is to build up possession in the wide areas and get plenty of crosses into the box for Mateta/Benteke to eat up.

PV favours target men so if Mateta and/or Benteke do leave, we should try and replace them with better versions of Benteke and Mateta.

Ben Bereton at Blackburn is the kind of striker we should be looking at imo (although we have probably missed the boat with him as Newcastle seem to be sniffing around) or the Swiss international Breel Embolo.

I don't think Nketiah is the answer to our problems tbh, although I would happily be proven wrong. I reckon PV would just end up playing Nketiah out wide and lord knows we have more than enough wide players atm.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 11 Jan 22 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Speronilover69 8=D~~

I don't agree that Benteke and Mateta don't suit our style of play. We have plenty of nippy, skilful strikers at the club (Zaha, Ayew, Edouard) yet PV continually opts to go with a target man. It seems like the plan under PV is to build up possession in the wide areas and get plenty of crosses into the box for Mateta/Benteke to eat up.

PV favours target men so if Mateta and/or Benteke do leave, we should try and replace them with better versions of Benteke and Mateta.

Ben Bereton at Blackburn is the kind of striker we should be looking at imo (although we have probably missed the boat with him as Newcastle seem to be sniffing around) or the Swiss international Breel Embolo.

I don't think Nketiah is the answer to our problems tbh, although I would happily be proven wrong. I reckon PV would just end up playing Nketiah out wide and lord knows we have more than enough wide players atm.

Benteke doesn't suit anybody's style (sorry i cant help myself)

 


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View Philís Barber's Profile Philís Barber Flag Crowborough 11 Jan 22 2.00pm Send a Private Message to Philís Barber Add Philís Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If PV is trying to develop a Man City II team then we are looking for a mobile tricky striker who can play across the front. Benteke certainly doesn't fill that role. I haven't seen enough of Nketiah but presumable PV has so we have to trust his judgement.

I fully accept your point Badger, you have to be concerned though that respected people in the club have allegedly done previous due diligence on the likes of Sorloth, Sanogo, Shola Ameobi & Jordan Mutch!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 12 Jan 22 5.06pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

Iíve never taken to Benteke anyway. Whatever the argument about him not getting the service, whether thatís wrong or right, he just hasnít got that fire in his belly. He doesnít work hard enough to make things happen, he doesnít attack the ball in the area and he certainly doesnít put himself about and let defenders know heís there. Many a pundit has commented on this over the last two or three years. A gentle giant as martin Tyler called him recently. He wants the ball on a plate all the time and as for best header in Europe as Pardew labelled him?? Do me a favour!! Iíd rather keep Mateta

So basically Iíd get shot of him tomorrow if it was my decision

Very sound and sensible advice!

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Online Flag New Mills 12 Jan 22 5.36pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


1. Although Benteke and Mateta are similar types of players, I suggest the latter is far more mobile than the former. He really stretched out his neck to get his head to Olise's cross for the winner against Millwall. I couldn't imagine Benteke doing that. He wouldn't have got to it IMO.

2. I agree with your comments re our current squad being able to see us through the season and that the main question is the one about Mateta v Nketiah. Re the latter, I'm wondering if he's delaying in the hope he'll feature in the two Carabao cup semis against Liverpool. If Arsenal win, he may want to stay in the hope of featuring in the final and possibly winning a cup medal. If they lose he may then leave in what remains of this window.

watching Mateta the comparison with Tekkers is staggering - why a scout thought he could be an upgrade is beyond me.

Similar build and yet neither uses their strength to bully defenders and the lack of awareness and anticipation that both have is shocking. Neither seem to be able to hold the ball up, a main requirement for a centre forward.

Tekkers is often slow coming back so is offside for phase 2 attacks, and Mateta did the same for our 1st goal on Sat, luckily no VAR.

Having said that Mateta has taken his 2 goals recently really well and just by standing in the middle of the goal (as he did for his header on Sat) is a big plus as i'm used to seeing Tekkers and to a lesser extent Zaha standing behind a defender on the edge of the box when crosses are wiped in.


Edited by palace99 (12 Jan 2022 5.37pm)

 

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View rossboss29's Profile rossboss29 Flag Portsmouth 12 Jan 22 5.48pm Send a Private Message to rossboss29 Add rossboss29 as a friend

Guessing I am the only one who thinks we look most dangerous when Benteke starts up front ? His hold up play & bringing others in is far better than anyone Iíve seen so far. Eduoard when he is on his own through the middle is mostly anonymous in the games I have seen and bizarrely has worked better on the wing with tekkers through the middle

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Jan 22 6.04pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

watching Mateta the comparison with Tekkers is staggering - why a scout thought he could be an upgrade is beyond me.

Similar build and yet neither uses their strength to bully defenders and the lack of awareness and anticipation that both have is shocking. Neither seem to be able to hold the ball up, a main requirement for a centre forward.

Tekkers is often slow coming back so is offside for phase 2 attacks, and Mateta did the same for our 1st goal on Sat, luckily no VAR.

Having said that Mateta has taken his 2 goals recently really well and just by standing in the middle of the goal (as he did for his header on Sat) is a big plus as i'm used to seeing Tekkers and to a lesser extent Zaha standing behind a defender on the edge of the box when crosses are wiped in.


Edited by palace99 (12 Jan 2022 5.37pm)


He ran/lumbered over half the length of the pitch to be on the end of Olise's cross, so, he wasn't standing in the middle of the goal, as you put it.

 


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