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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 13 Jan 22 12.14pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend


Sorry, my misreading of the stats. Benteke has 14 goals in 50 PL matches of which 33 were starts and 17 off the bench - so basically the same as Wood since the beginning of last season.

 

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View Palace BANANA's Profile Palace BANANA Flag Heathfield East Sussex 13 Jan 22 1.55pm Send a Private Message to Palace BANANA Add Palace BANANA as a friend

Originally posted by dazza

Anyone that judges any of our strikers under Roy Hodgson knows nothing about football.

Itís already proved this season that when you give service you score goals, Benteke is going to score more goals this season than what he has in the previous 4 seasons & thatís all to service & style of play.

Totally agree with you Dazza, I also think his hold up play is good as he brings others in the game.. with better service he will score more goals, the last 4 years the service he's been given has been almost non existent..

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 13 Jan 22 2.13pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Palace BANANA

Totally agree with you Dazza, I also think his hold up play is good as he brings others in the game.. with better service he will score more goals, the last 4 years the service he's been given has been almost non existent..

We had Zaha and Townsend for most of the time, even i know that Zaha if crossing its low along the six yard box if Townsend is crossing he cuts back on to his left foot and crosses high to the far post, Benteke never grasped that and was always out of position, nothing to do with Hodgson, its that Benteke is unable to grasp and positional sense

 


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Conner Wickham's a free agent . . . Just saying.

 


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Originally posted by doombear


Sorry, my misreading of the stats. Benteke has 14 goals in 50 PL matches of which 33 were starts and 17 off the bench - so basically the same as Wood since the beginning of last season.

If only we could get someone to pay 25mil for him

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 13 Jan 22 2.59pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

We had Zaha and Townsend for most of the time, even i know that Zaha if crossing its low along the six yard box if Townsend is crossing he cuts back on to his left foot and crosses high to the far post, Benteke never grasped that and was always out of position, nothing to do with Hodgson, its that Benteke is unable to grasp and positional sense

Totally agree useless!

 

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View Skinnii's Profile Skinnii Flag Sheffield 13 Jan 22 3.27pm Send a Private Message to Skinnii Add Skinnii as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

We had Zaha and Townsend for most of the time, even i know that Zaha if crossing its low along the six yard box if Townsend is crossing he cuts back on to his left foot and crosses high to the far post, Benteke never grasped that and was always out of position, nothing to do with Hodgson, its that Benteke is unable to grasp and positional sense

If you know this then so do defenders, and this makes it easy for them, particularly as was often the case under Hodgson's safety first tactics Benteke would be the only person in the box. Whether Benteke makes the right run or is the right position is irrelevant when there are two defenders in position to defend the cross.

Benteke did (does) not get the service or the support he needs to be successful. How do you know where to be when Zaha's crossing in general is appalling and you never know with Zaha if he is going to cross or try to beat the defender for the 3rd time. And on the other wing Townsend would always, as you say cut inside and cross to the far post, giving the advantage to the defenders/goal keeper or perhaps not even cross it and go for glory himself.

Perhaps Benteke could have done/can do more, but to lay the blame for his poor goal return solely at his door is I think unfair. Football is a team game and as a team we have not played to his strengths.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 13 Jan 22 3.40pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Skinnii

If you know this then so do defenders, and this makes it easy for them, particularly as was often the case under Hodgson's safety first tactics Benteke would be the only person in the box. Whether Benteke makes the right run or is the right position is irrelevant when there are two defenders in position to defend the cross.

Benteke did (does) not get the service or the support he needs to be successful. How do you know where to be when Zaha's crossing in general is appalling and you never know with Zaha if he is going to cross or try to beat the defender for the 3rd time. And on the other wing Townsend would always, as you say cut inside and cross to the far post, giving the advantage to the defenders/goal keeper or perhaps not even cross it and go for glory himself.

Perhaps Benteke could have done/can do more, but to lay the blame for his poor goal return solely at his door is I think unfair. Football is a team game and as a team we have not played to his strengths.

That i think is the biggest understatement i have heard in ages, many times the ball flash across the six yard spot with Benteke standing on the edge of the box and many of Townsends crosses went unchallenged because he has no anticipation what so ever

 


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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 13 Jan 22 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

and how many times did/do we see WZ or AT make clearance from defence as Benteke did/does from corners etc.

 

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

That i think is the biggest understatement i have heard in ages, many times the ball flash across the six yard spot with Benteke standing on the edge of the box and many of Townsends crosses went unchallenged because he has no anticipation what so ever

..and how many of Townsends crosses were actually misplaced and overhit?.. or as said earlier, he went for glory, as do many players.. Benteke shouldn't be made the scapegoat for the teams poor scoring record under Roy.. he was given little service and no support as the other nine outfield players were generally playing in their own half..

 

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

That i think is the biggest understatement i have heard in ages, many times the ball flash across the six yard spot with Benteke standing on the edge of the box and many of Townsends crosses went unchallenged because he has no anticipation what so ever

(Next time I respond to one of your posts I'm going to put just one point forward as it's clear you are selective in what you subsequently respond to)

Who's fault is it that it's flashed across the box when our striker is on the edge of the area? Shouldn't the person crossing the ball look up and try to find our striker?

(See...I can do that do)

 


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Originally posted by Skinnii

(Next time I respond to one of your posts I'm going to put just one point forward as it's clear you are selective in what you subsequently respond to)

Who's fault is it that it's flashed across the box when our striker is on the edge of the area? Shouldn't the person crossing the ball look up and try to find our striker?

(See...I can do that do)

Many a pundit has said in the past, Benteke doesnít anticipate the ball being put into the danger area, he just doesnít have that desire to attack the ball like a proper centre forward, he wants it put on a plate all the time

 

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