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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Feb 22 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We see this focus from leftists/centralists on PA, mainly because they are growing and reject their globalism/global village politics.

The funding and power of the state and corporations pitted against those not willing to nod along to the destruction and demonisation of their ancestry are massive.

I just write occassional posts on a forum yet I had the Police sent to my door....we are no longer the free country I was raised in....What you think is now a politically enforceable matter. That use to be something we would criticise of other countries.

This is just what the elites want and all the documentation is available to those interested from the UN's replacement migration policy, to restrictions on media to the 'hate speech laws' and 'equality laws'. Collectively it's designed to shut people up and compromise any political response.

Again, western social conservatism never did this to their ideologies when they were considered socially unacceptable...and that's really an insight into the measure of that kind of person.

However, like I said, their attacks are ineffective as the conditions create the response and demographic change is that condition. So over time it's pointless....words on a page. Cheap like words are, the actions are inevitable because they will be driven by real world factors.

National/global economic levelers, crime rates, the significant growth of demographics of adults of differing cultural identities will determine what happens. People will rationalise and find forms of language to justify whatever they do in life. However as the demographic map shows people will move to areas of similar culture, which will (not always) follow racial lines, though it's significant even now. ..all of that is just human nature.

I get annoyed by the sheer double standards and hippy like empathy arguments....as if that ultimately means anything to practice actions. Anyway once we get regional Islamic representation separate from parliament the timeline hastens....I'd say that's no more than twenty to thirty years away....it's a numbers game, assimilation didn't work, it never works on large population scales....Those same arguments were being made in the sixties long before the terrorist attacks, kneeing and BLM.

It would be nice and actually democratic if rejection of what's happening could be given a political voice in my country....but it doesn't really matter, because it's all set anyway.....I won't be here to see it but it matters to me. But states within states is a coming reality and it depresses me...but at least I spoke up.

You can run on for a long time....run on for a long time...run on for a long time....sooner of later it'll cut you down.

Figurately of course.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Feb 2022 11.38am)

I'll leave these excuses where they are. Those able to see their frailty will see it. Those unable will go on deluding themselves, and scaring others.

Many of the usual bogey men are there. Elites, leftists, globalists, free speech, double standards. All being co-ordinated no doubt in Davos.

If ever there was a need to show why some groups are not permitted to register themselves as a political party it has just been provided.

At least the "occasional posts on a forum" bit made me laugh.

No-one lives in exactly the same conditions they were born in. Evolution of laws and expectations are as real as any other kind of evolution. You either adapt or become extinct. That's life.

 


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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 11 Feb 22 3.20pm Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Tories obviously doing something right.
The economy grew 7.5% in 2021 so nearly at pre covid level.
Onwards and upwards.

The growth number is positive however this is based against the 9.4% fall in 2020 - but as you say onwards and upwards…

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Feb 22 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


I don't know why you are discussing Patriotic Alternative with me.
The simple mathematical and biological facts of 'replacement' have nothing to do with politics. They are just a simple reality.

Who is the extremist? Someone who bases their truth on ideology like you, or someone who extrapolates a prediction using science?

You keep talking about 'absorbing'. Let me promise you that at current rates, that will only increase, when you are outnumbered 10 to 1 on the planet, it will be your genetic brothers and sisters who will be absorbed.
Our culture will disappear along with it, and if you can't see to what extent that has happened already, then you must live in total isolation. Perhaps in Cornwall it is still the 1960s.

It's difficult to take this post seriously.

As "Patriotic Alternative" is under discussion, and their approach is clearly based upon the "Great Replacement" theory, which is supported above, it seems obvious to link the two.

The idea that the "Great Replacement Theory" is based on science made me laugh out loud. It is no such thing at all. It's as scientific as the idea that if you bet red each time, and win the first 10 spins, re-investing your winnings each time, that by the time you have reached 100 spins you will be a millionaire.

This is Del boy science. The only thing certain about current trends is that they won't be tomorrow's trends, any more than they were yesterday's. They might not change as quickly as the 10 spins will, but they will change. Interventions, of many kinds, will guarantee that. Absorption and adaptation as a consequence of interventions will hasten that.

Trying to frighten the gullible, as PA does, won't help us, but it won't stop us. Our culture and heritage won't disappear. The British may not all look like the British did when our parents were alive, but they will still be British.

Just consider this. How many people did your parents know who had a partner who was born aboard? Compare that with how many you know. If you know many more that's a reflection of modern Britain. If you know less, then you need to get out more.

For me this whole thing is much less to do with Britishness, and our culture and heritage, than with simple racism. Racism is unacceptable. Or at least it ought to be.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 11 Feb 22 3.54pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

His choice of women aside (although even that could be argued is better than our current PM) Major is 10 times the man Johnson will ever be. He has dignity, diplomacy, honesty and a genuine sense of service running through him from head to toes.

Johnson is a populist chancer, without a shred of integrity.

Except when he is sh***ing another woman behind his wife’s back.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 11 Feb 22 5.09pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I read a precis of his time in office earlier today.
It was factual not an opinion.
Sleaze abounded. The exchange rate mechanism disaster. Taking over a Government where Thatcher had delivered a 120 seat majority which he turned into a 20 seat win and then a defeat to Blair who won with a 127 seat majority. The final sale of British Rail. Cash for questions. The list is a long one!
He had no right to say what he said given Boris is away on business and no right to question what he has done given his own sleaze back in the day.
He is a bitter Remainer and hopes that if they can get the man who saw Brexit through that they might get back to Brussels!

Edited by The Dolphin (11 Feb 2022 5.10pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Feb 22 6.25pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's difficult to take this post seriously.

As "Patriotic Alternative" is under discussion, and their approach is clearly based upon the "Great Replacement" theory, which is supported above, it seems obvious to link the two.

The idea that the "Great Replacement Theory" is based on science made me laugh out loud. It is no such thing at all. It's as scientific as the idea that if you bet red each time, and win the first 10 spins, re-investing your winnings each time, that by the time you have reached 100 spins you will be a millionaire.

This is Del boy science. The only thing certain about current trends is that they won't be tomorrow's trends, any more than they were yesterday's. They might not change as quickly as the 10 spins will, but they will change. Interventions, of many kinds, will guarantee that. Absorption and adaptation as a consequence of interventions will hasten that.

Trying to frighten the gullible, as PA does, won't help us, but it won't stop us. Our culture and heritage won't disappear. The British may not all look like the British did when our parents were alive, but they will still be British.

Just consider this. How many people did your parents know who had a partner who was born aboard? Compare that with how many you know. If you know many more that's a reflection of modern Britain. If you know less, then you need to get out more.

For me this whole thing is much less to do with Britishness, and our culture and heritage, than with simple racism. Racism is unacceptable. Or at least it ought to be.

You have already made it perfectly clear that you are a denier of reality in favour of idealism.
It is also clear that you talk in irrational riddles.

Making stupid, irrelevant analogies is about your level.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Feb 22 6.28pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I read a precis of his time in office earlier today.
It was factual not an opinion.
Sleaze abounded. The exchange rate mechanism disaster. Taking over a Government where Thatcher had delivered a 120 seat majority which he turned into a 20 seat win and then a defeat to Blair who won with a 127 seat majority. The final sale of British Rail. Cash for questions. The list is a long one!
He had no right to say what he said given Boris is away on business and no right to question what he has done given his own sleaze back in the day.
He is a bitter Remainer and hopes that if they can get the man who saw Brexit through that they might get back to Brussels!

Edited by The Dolphin (11 Feb 2022 5.10pm)

Very true.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Feb 22 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I read a precis of his time in office earlier today.
It was factual not an opinion.
Sleaze abounded. The exchange rate mechanism disaster. Taking over a Government where Thatcher had delivered a 120 seat majority which he turned into a 20 seat win and then a defeat to Blair who won with a 127 seat majority. The final sale of British Rail. Cash for questions. The list is a long one!
He had no right to say what he said given Boris is away on business and no right to question what he has done given his own sleaze back in the day.
He is a bitter Remainer and hopes that if they can get the man who saw Brexit through that they might get back to Brussels!

Edited by The Dolphin (11 Feb 2022 5.10pm)

He has every bit as much right to express an opinion as anyone. As you just have.

The problems you identify were inherited at a time when Thatcherism was becoming unpopular and Labour under John Smith, and then Tony Blair, were looking like a fresh, new alternative.

His "sleaze" was personal, which he apologised for and was ashamed of. Professionally he had integrity and a belief in democracy that is sadly missing today.

Johnson deserves all the criticism which is coming his way, and more. Past Tory PMs must be turning in their graves seeing this clown in No 10. Major, Cameron and May are the only ones still alive. All wanted us to remain in the EU. Maybe they knew something! May and Major are openly critical of Johnson, who believes in nothing at all.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He has every bit as much right to express an opinion as anyone. As you just have.

The problems you identify were inherited at a time when Thatcherism was becoming unpopular and Labour under John Smith, and then Tony Blair, were looking like a fresh, new alternative.

His "sleaze" was personal, which he apologised for and was ashamed of. Professionally he had integrity and a belief in democracy that is sadly missing today.

Johnson deserves all the criticism which is coming his way, and more. Past Tory PMs must be turning in their graves seeing this clown in No 10. Major, Cameron and May are the only ones still alive. All wanted us to remain in the EU. Maybe they knew something! May and Major are openly critical of Johnson, who believes in nothing at all.

"The argument that someone is a bad man is an inadequate argument for war and certainly an inadequate and unacceptable argument for regime change." [John Major]

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Feb 22 7.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You have already made it perfectly clear that you are a denier of reality in favour of idealism.
It is also clear that you talk in irrational riddles.

Making stupid, irrelevant analogies is about your level.

Seeking the ideal, whilst keeping your feet on the ground, is the sensible approach. We need to aim high, whilst maintaining caution.

Assuming current trends, even if accurately interpreted, which they aren't, will continue, has no basis at all in reality. It's scaremongering as a fig leaf to cover a particularly nasty type of racism. This quote, from an analysis of the "Great Replacement" serves as a warning to us all:-

"Of all the swivel-eyed conspiracies shambling through the more squalid reaches of the internet, the Great Replacement has proved uniquely powerful. Its doctrine of survival is a captivating persuasion tactic for people bent on drawing more people to the cause of white supremacy. It crams children into cages in detention centres, and it puts guns in the hands of men wishing to exorcise their bloody power fantasies. And it veils the real operation of violence, recasting terrorism as heroism and tyranny as the tactical necessities of self-defence."

You can read the whole piece here:-

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Some will seek to dismiss the criticism because the source of this is "leftist", as though that makes it automatically invalid.

Read the analysis. Forget who published it.

Then, maybe, this will be answered, rather than ignored:- "How many people did your parents know who had a partner who was born aboard? Compare that with how many you know."

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Feb 2022 7.23pm)

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He has every bit as much right to express an opinion as anyone. As you just have.

The problems you identify were inherited at a time when Thatcherism was becoming unpopular and Labour under John Smith, and then Tony Blair, were looking like a fresh, new alternative.

His "sleaze" was personal, which he apologised for and was ashamed of. Professionally he had integrity and a belief in democracy that is sadly missing today.

Johnson deserves all the criticism which is coming his way, and more. Past Tory PMs must be turning in their graves seeing this clown in No 10. Major, Cameron and May are the only ones still alive. All wanted us to remain in the EU. Maybe they knew something! May and Major are openly critical of Johnson, who believes in nothing at all.

So because they all wanted to remain they are Good!
Is that your line for good or bad? Personally it's quite a thin line but hey all to their own opinions I guess.

 

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Johnson had two speeches prepared for referendum night.

One for leave if it was successful, and the other one for remain if likewise.

Johnson relies on the publics gullibility he thinks he can get away with anything.

And he's right they even gave him a massive majority, even the tory rags had doubts about him.


 

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