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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 14 Jan 22 6.30am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

So some mps are accused of taking money from alleged Chinese spies. So while the tories' party; Labour are potentially doing the same but internationally. The futures bright, the futures red. Maybe not Labour red though !

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jan 22 7.22am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

They rely on us pointing at our favourite colour in horror to get away with their misdeeds. We need a zero tolerance attitude to all of this stuff as it's laughable in its frequency.

I'd certainly say it appears to worse in the Conservative party right now, but I'm not sure how much of that is down to ideology. I tend to instead think that being in power for so long breeds complacency and further entitlement. Hence throwing a party every 8 seconds while locking us up.


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 14 Jan 22 8.30am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

why are they called Labour ?

considering their support-base has so many unemployed skangers

 


Pay for a BBC TV license ? yeah, right.

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jan 22 9.19am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

why are they called Labour ?

considering their support-base has so many unemployed skangers

They're all preggers.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Jan 22 9.25am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I saw the Headline Labour MP accepts 500,000.00 donation from Chinese spy" and I thought crikey never mind the Chinese spy why is an MP accepting a donation from anybody.

His constituency office is paid for by the taxpayer so why would any MP from any party be justified in accepting this type of money even if it game from Gandhi.

There is something seriously wrong with the MP rules around donations and second jobs.

Edited by Badger11 (14 Jan 2022 9.26am)

 


One more point

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jan 22 9.48am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I saw the Headline Labour MP accepts 500,000.00 donation from Chinese spy" and I thought crikey never mind the Chinese spy why is an MP accepting a donation from anybody.

His constituency office is paid for by the taxpayer so why would any MP from any party be justified in accepting this type of money even if it game from Gandhi.

There is something seriously wrong with the MP rules around donations and second jobs.

Edited by Badger11 (14 Jan 2022 9.26am)

Definitely. Huge donations, and 'second jobs' (that either appear to be 'non jobs' or 'first jobs') appear to be the purpose of many to get into politics to begin with. I'd certainly be for better pay if it meant that being an MP truly involved representing the interests of voters rather than corporations and the like.

 

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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 14 Jan 22 9.51am Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So some mps are accused of taking money from alleged Chinese spies. So while the tories' party; Labour are potentially doing the same but internationally. The futures bright, the futures red. Maybe not Labour red though !

Is that you, Boris?

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 14 Jan 22 10.09am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Many have such short memories of the financial mess Labour left when they were last in office.
Starmer and Co are now holier than thou and apparently,never ever make any mistakes.Even that dreadful Lammy,opposition Justice Secretary with his second job!!
God help us all if they should win the next Election,
Time to emigrate in that scenario.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Jan 22 10.27am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Is that you, Boris?

Is that you Nick?


Labour hypocrisy. Who would have guessed.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jan 22 10.39am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

Many have such short memories of the financial mess Labour left when they were last in office.
Starmer and Co are now holier than thou and apparently,never ever make any mistakes.Even that dreadful Lammy,opposition Justice Secretary with his second job!!
God help us all if they should win the next Election,
Time to emigrate in that scenario.

Memory doesn't have to be that short as it was almost 12 years ago now! People often talk of it being a disaster if this or that party get in, but much of the financial tides are what they are and the party in power either take the blame for it or the credit. This government hardly creates an environment where we have any reason to believe that they have our financial interests at heart.

The depressing truth most likely is that politicians, corporations, media and the mega rich are largely simpatico at this point, and that anyone genuinely planning on doing anything about that is filtered out or painted as some kind of crank or lunatic before they ever get a sniff of power. I didn't even bother voting the last few times, but to be honest the media did a number on Corbyn not because the contortions of him (terrorist lover! jew hater!) had anything to do with what his leadership would be, but instead as way of getting him out of the picture because he may have actually at least attempted to address some financial disparities, housing issues and so on.

Similarly with the once improbable election of Trump. These 'outlier events' are only happening because people have seen that institutions are now often tainted by lobbyists and corporations and so they don't trust their decision makers (which is a worrying point to get to). He wore the mask of a 'man of the people' but that had no basis in reality either since he's the epitome of 'the swamp' he claimed to want to drain. He had enough intelligence to know what people are sick of though. Hopefully one day a leader will somehow sneak through the net who dupes corporations and the powerful and works for the people, rather than the other way around. I expect we're in for a very long wait for that though.


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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 14 Jan 22 11.05am Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Is that you Nick?


Labour hypocrisy. Who would have guessed.

The figure in question also has strong links to both Theresa May and David Cameron so it's not quite the partisan slam dunk you think it is!

A simple bit of reading the news may have highlighted that for you.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 14 Jan 22 11.20am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Let's be honest, they are all pretty rotten. Yes, its bloody rare for MI5 to pull a stunt like this but it indicates, at least to me, that they have probably been trying for a while to let the MP involved know that there is some dodgy s*** going on but he has chosen to willfully ignore the quiet little chats that no doubt took place.

There was a Tory MP down in Portsmouth who was infamous for having lovely Russian girls on tap as his office assistants and I believe MI5 were not too impressed with him either.

In defence of Labour, you could argue, at least back in the Cold War, that the MP's that were in the pay of foreign intelligence services, did at least do so for ideological reasons as opposed to just plain old greed (Micheal Foot for example was considered to have been passing info back to the KGB). Key to understanding all of this is where MP's go on to work for once they have left or who their nearest and dearest get their paycheques. 'Think Tanks' are notorious for being linked to Intelligence Agencies, as are major charities.

All part of how the stinking game plays.

Foreign intelligence agencies seeking to turn politicians is just part of the game. And we do it back. Probably even more so.

The only question asked about any politician is around whether you can buy or blackmail them.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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