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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 14 Jan 22 11.53am Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So some mps are accused of taking money from alleged Chinese spies. So while the tories' party; Labour are potentially doing the same but internationally. The futures bright, the futures red. Maybe not Labour red though !

Don"t critique him just yet, they are holding an inquiry headed by his very experienced secretary- she has the respect of all and sundry, is honest as they come! we are hoping to hear the results sometime soon-these things take time if fully investigated-but should be before 2030-until then- he is an innocent man.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 14 Jan 22 2.39pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

As Matov says - and regardless of our differing politics - they are all pretty rotten - not all but most are out for something they wouldn't get in the real working world.
The system needs sorting out root and branch by some real independents otherwise none of this is going to get any better and the losers are us - the general population - who have to suffer these absolute numpties running the Country.
I would add to the Politicians all of those in the civil service as well.
A parliamentary Private Secretary issues an invitation to party at no 10 during lockdown.
He is stupid as well as arrogant and anyone who attended is just as bad so why do we have to pay his/their wages - he/they must be completely devoid of intelligence to do something so stupid.
Leaving parties - good God - what were they thinking?
The list of what is wrong is colossal through all parties and the politicised House of Lords and the Civil Service.
I despise the majority of them and wonder sometimes how this Country functions.

 

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

As Matov says - and regardless of our differing politics - they are all pretty rotten - not all but most are out for something they wouldn't get in the real working world.
The system needs sorting out root and branch by some real independents otherwise none of this is going to get any better and the losers are us - the general population - who have to suffer these absolute numpties running the Country.
I would add to the Politicians all of those in the civil service as well.
A parliamentary Private Secretary issues an invitation to party at no 10 during lockdown.
He is stupid as well as arrogant and anyone who attended is just as bad so why do we have to pay his/their wages - he/they must be completely devoid of intelligence to do something so stupid.
Leaving parties - good God - what were they thinking?
The list of what is wrong is colossal through all parties and the politicised House of Lords and the Civil Service.
I despise the majority of them and wonder sometimes how this Country functions.

Agree Dolphin, with what you say about what motivates MPs these days. Mrs POG and I were saying the same only the other day. They no longer seem to have the interests of the Country or their constituents in mind, just in it for their own benefit. Trying to raise their own profile.

Sad state of affairs reflects today's 'I want it all....now!' culture. You only have to look at the calibre and general attitude of politicians just as recently as the 50s and 60s to see how low things have sunk these days.

 


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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 14 Jan 22 3.35pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I am sure that Mrs Thatcher still does - as she always did - divide opinion - but if nothing else she did work hard for the Country.
Forget whether you agreed with her decisions and policies, she worked hard with her husband alongside her.
Not for her off earning squillions afterwards like Lord Blair either.
She was pretty much the last of any decent person and their type - although there were still some good Politicians after her on all sides of the house.
John Major sort of - but he shagged Edwina so from him onwards it has all gone downhill with the job motto nowadays being - "ask not what I can do for my Country but what I can do for me, me and me"!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 14 Jan 22 5.21pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Don"t critique him just yet, they are holding an inquiry headed by his very experienced secretary- she has the respect of all and sundry, is honest as they come! we are hoping to hear the results sometime soon-these things take time if fully investigated-but should be before 2030-until then- he is an innocent man.

What's eight years in real money. Just a blink of an eye

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 14 Jan 22 5.54pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Gardner is quite clean on this, clearing it with the security services and declaring it properly.

But I don't like him, so sack him anyway.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 14 Jan 22 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Obviously I'm no fan of his politics but Gardner actually has brains.

And in the modern Labour party that's like Hen's teeth.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Jan 22 10.06pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Gardner is quite clean on this, clearing it with the security services and declaring it properly.

But I don't like him, so sack him anyway.

Still don't see why he accepted it I am not bothered about the spy bit (I take his word he didn't know) its just wrong. This is the problem its not wrong by their rules which they make to suit themselves.

 


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View Linford7's Profile Linford7 Flag Ruxley, Bexley 14 Jan 22 10.26pm Send a Private Message to Linford7 Add Linford7 as a friend

In all fairness, the money wasnít spent on him, it was a number of donations for staff wages for constituency work. Like it or not this is completely normal and just the way that politics works in this country. Itís dodgy, but theyíre all at it.

David Cameron, Theresa May and Sir Ed Davey all took her money, but the focus seems to be on Gardiner in the press. Cameron and May were building the Hinckley Point nuclear plant for China at the time. What has Gardiner done for China?

Why has the story come out now? This was all known years back, but itís only just getting reported. Is it to distract from the investigation into parties at number 10?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 14 Jan 22 11.14pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Linford7

In all fairness, the money wasnít spent on him, it was a number of donations for staff wages for constituency work. Like it or not this is completely normal and just the way that politics works in this country. Itís dodgy, but theyíre all at it.

David Cameron, Theresa May and Sir Ed Davey all took her money, but the focus seems to be on Gardiner in the press. Cameron and May were building the Hinckley Point nuclear plant for China at the time. What has Gardiner done for China?

Why has the story come out now? This was all known years back, but itís only just getting reported. Is it to distract from the investigation into parties at number 10?

Likely so expect stories all over about different mps.
As you say it's how it works.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 15 Jan 22 9.09am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I note that Sir Keir may have had a drinks soiree himself which while it is probably a little innocent I note that mainstream media and the far left BBC do not even want to mention.I
Also the Civil Servants partying is not so headline either - just Boris!
Don't get me wrong - the Government are out of order as is Boris - but some fair reporting might be in order!

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Jan 22 11.38am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I know of Labour Councillors, who are very much in the socialist camp. Yet they own big rural detached houses and very much inclined towards "not in my backyard" policies.

Name me any politician who doesn't do that ?

Corbyn just didn't know what was acceptable to the public. And banging someone with a face that launched 1000 ships, or a bulldog chewing a wasp, was never going to be widely seen as acceptable

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