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Eagle-Trucker Flag Cashel , Co Tipp 20 Jul 24 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Eagle-Trucker Add Eagle-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Waffle

twaddle and drivel.

 

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 20 Jul 24 5.41pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Eagle-Trucker

twaddle and drivel.

Balderdash

 

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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Norbury Old Git Flag London 20 Jul 24 5.59pm Send a Private Message to Norbury Old Git Add Norbury Old Git as a friend

There are very few managers in our history who have had to put up with the challenges to the team that PV had.
Firstly Gallagher returned to Chelsea. Then the pre-season was disrupted when the squad had to be split to undertake pre-Covid commitments in both Singapore and the US. Following his recovery from a long injury Eze returned but was clearly not match fit. Two months into the season HM Queen died and matches were postponed and immediately followed by an international break. In early November the World Cup started with more match postponements. Then at the beginning of February we had to take our mid-season break. Matches had to be fitted in to the programme and the TV companies decided that we should play the top teams rather than the those in the bottom half. So when Roy came in he had a very easy run in and only seven points needed to avoid relegation.
An experienced manager would have found this situation extremely challenging and I suspect PV suffered from a bout of depression. However, he did not help himself by avoiding SP and talking to Leeds, if the rumours were correct.
I certainly do not regard him as a failure.

 
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pssguy Flag 20 Jul 24 7.24pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by Norbury Old Git

There are very few managers in our history who have had to put up with the challenges to the team that PV had.
Firstly Gallagher returned to Chelsea. Then the pre-season was disrupted when the squad had to be split to undertake pre-Covid commitments in both Singapore and the US. Following his recovery from a long injury Eze returned but was clearly not match fit. Two months into the season HM Queen died and matches were postponed and immediately followed by an international break. In early November the World Cup started with more match postponements. Then at the beginning of February we had to take our mid-season break. Matches had to be fitted in to the programme and the TV companies decided that we should play the top teams rather than the those in the bottom half. So when Roy came in he had a very easy run in and only seven points needed to avoid relegation.
An experienced manager would have found this situation extremely challenging and I suspect PV suffered from a bout of depression. However, he did not help himself by avoiding SP and talking to Leeds, if the rumours were correct.
I certainly do not regard him as a failure.

But he was hardly a success and has now proven sub-par at three clubs
I think his positive legacy is the unknown amount of influence he had on bringing players of the quality of Olise, Guehi, Andersen, Mateta, Richards and Doucoure, amongst others, to the club. I think most people would agree that this crop is of a much higher quality than any of the squads Hodgson had in his first spell

 
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eaglesdare Flag 20 Jul 24 7.25pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

PV gave me some of my best memories in recent times along with Alan pardew. Both tailed off at the end but I remember them both fondly.

 
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Lazy Flag North Kent 20 Jul 24 9.36pm Send a Private Message to Lazy Add Lazy as a friend

Cobblers

 
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burnfireball Flag Torquay 20 Jul 24 9.39pm Send a Private Message to burnfireball Add burnfireball as a friend

Poppycock

 

I didn't believe she was devil's sperm
She said, "Curse you all, you'll never learn
When I leave there's no return."
The people laughed till she said, "Burn!"
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Car54 Flag Lower Upington 20 Jul 24 9.41pm Send a Private Message to Car54 Add Car54 as a friend

codswallop

 

There will always be rocks in the road ahead of us. They will be stumbling blocks or stepping stones; it all depends on how you use them.

Friedrich Nietzsche
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Car54 Flag Lower Upington 20 Jul 24 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Car54 Add Car54 as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

PV gave me some of my best memories in recent times along with Alan pardew. Both tailed off at the end but I remember them both fondly.

you must have a short memory, all i remember is a shambles of a team, not focused because of the abismal training sessions that the players had to go to Parish about to stop the rot

 

There will always be rocks in the road ahead of us. They will be stumbling blocks or stepping stones; it all depends on how you use them.

Friedrich Nietzsche
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Eagle-Trucker Flag Cashel , Co Tipp 20 Jul 24 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Eagle-Trucker Add Eagle-Trucker as a friend

blathering like a bubbly-jock

betcha never herad that one before

 

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Eagle-Trucker Flag Cashel , Co Tipp 20 Jul 24 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Eagle-Trucker Add Eagle-Trucker as a friend

prattle!

 

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CT Charlie Flag 21 Jul 24 3.11am Send a Private Message to CT Charlie Add CT Charlie as a friend

Balderdash? As a Yank, English is foreign to me.


I liked Viera, but I'm having a difficult time deciding how good a fit he would be for our young team. He earned good reviews in New York until he didn't. In the WC, our players will need man management and motivation more than mere tactics, I think, and those player-centric skills may be PV's strength.

 
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