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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Jan 22 10.34pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Even more appalling on Holocaust Memorial Day.

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David Lammy is the MP for that area, he was happy to ride Corbyn's anti semitic bandwagon until it served his interests to get off.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 28 Jan 22 1.14am

I'm not sure that we need to extract imagined political points from such a despicable attack. It's rather transparent to do so. We could perhaps though see it in the light of the reaction that visible difference may sometimes draw though. Regardless of personal thought, clearly anyone behaving this may should be locked up for long enough that they have a rethink about their conduct.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 28 Jan 22 1.41am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Which bit is imagined?

Lammy was a fervent Corbyn supporter, Corbyn presided over an anti semitic culture in the Labour party.

Presumably you either know Lammy spoke out against the antisemitism, or you disagree with the EHRC report.

I am happy to withdraw my Lammy comments if the contrary is evidenced.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 28 Jan 22 1.59am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Which bit is imagined?

Lammy was a fervent Corbyn supporter, Corbyn presided over an anti semitic culture in the Labour party.

Presumably you either know Lammy spoke out against the antisemitism, or you disagree with the EHRC report.

I am happy to withdraw my Lammy comments if the contrary is evidenced.

Much like the idea that Conservatives are all gunning for Muslims, I find it very hard to believe that everyone in the Labour party is sat there enraged about Jews. In fact, I think you'd struggle to find a minority that people in this country hold less angry or negative views about. So to assume that someone attacking a couple of Jewish gentlemen is somehow as result of them supporting Lammy (unknown) due to his connection to Corbyn who some believe is anti semitic is possibly up there with the most bizarre things I've every heard.


Or perhaps you're not saying that at all. In which case David Lammy and what he does or doesn't believe has absolutely nothing to do with this. Ultimately you appear to be latching onto a deplorable attack and draining some kind of political mileage out of it.


Edited by BlueJay (28 Jan 2022 6.19am)

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 28 Jan 22 6.58am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Any attack on any individual is completely out of order and all of us of reasonable mind think it is unacceptable.
There really are some scum out there who deserve to be sent somewhere where life is thoroughly unpleasant so they can learn what a great country they have the chance to live in.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 28 Jan 22 7.14am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

This is the global village in action.

How do they know the attack was inspired by anti semitism and not just general thuggery?

 


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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 Jan 22 7.54am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is the global village in action.

How do they know the attack was inspired by anti semitism and not just general thuggery?

This it in a nutshell. Practically every incident these days has to be boxed into the right 'hate' section, just like Ian Wright had to race card ordinary, decent football supporters/media for being pissed off with AFCON impacting negatively on the running of the EPL.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 28 Jan 22 9.08am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Although whatever was said it is pathetic a strong young adult should hit out at two old timers, it appears to me in the footage that the smaller Jewish man was firstly over interested in the black fellah as he walked towards them and it appears he was the one saying something. The police need to clarify exactly what this was about. It clearly wasn’t a mindless attack. The black fellah had gone by and based on the words then struck out.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 28 Jan 22 9.39am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Although whatever was said it is pathetic a strong young adult should hit out at two old timers, it appears to me in the footage that the smaller Jewish man was firstly over interested in the black fellah as he walked towards them and it appears he was the one saying something. The police need to clarify exactly what this was about. It clearly wasn’t a mindless attack. The black fellah had gone by and based on the words then struck out.

I didn't see anything like that myself.

However, I would certainly be interested in finding out more information about the attack.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 28 Jan 22 9.55am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Even more appalling on Holocaust Memorial Day.

[Link]

David Lammy is the MP for that area, he was happy to ride Corbyn's anti semitic bandwagon until it served his interests to get off.

Oh dear!

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 28 Jan 22 9.57am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is the global village in action.

How do they know the attack was inspired by anti semitism and not just general thuggery?

I may be a bit thick here, but what has this got to do with globalism?

More a Rashomon style narrative, where each party has a different story from a different perspective?

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 28 Jan 22 10.04am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Much like the idea that Conservatives are all gunning for Muslims, I find it very hard to believe that everyone in the Labour party is sat there enraged about Jews. In fact, I think you'd struggle to find a minority that people in this country hold less angry or negative views about. So to assume that someone attacking a couple of Jewish gentlemen is somehow as result of them supporting Lammy (unknown) due to his connection to Corbyn who some believe is anti semitic is possibly up there with the most bizarre things I've every heard.


Or perhaps you're not saying that at all. In which case David Lammy and what he does or doesn't believe has absolutely nothing to do with this. Ultimately you appear to be latching onto a deplorable attack and draining some kind of political mileage out of it.


Edited by BlueJay (28 Jan 2022 6.19am)

Quite. Lammy is a feather for every wind that blows (especially if there is a race card to play) and is now struggling to reinvent himself in his new role. However, do you think he would have got elected if he was an anti-Semite in a constituency with a large Jewish population and especially strong orthodox community?

Guilt by mere association is not guilt at all.

 

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