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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Feb 23 7.17pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by becky

So it seems that, on here at least, he's still guilty but has just bought his way out of it.

That report also refers to 'new material that has come to light' - maybe they have found social media posts that someone has been telling porkies somewhere along the line. It has been known for this to happen when they see an easy payday in compensation.

Innocent until proven guilty!

When a crime has a conviction rate < 1% and weíre talking about a multi millionaire defendant, I think thatís a reasonable take away.

Have you listened to the audio? There is no excusing it away.

 

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View Robk's Profile Robk Flag 02 Feb 23 7.59pm Send a Private Message to Robk Add Robk as a friend

Wow there are some naive people on here....

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 02 Feb 23 8.10pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

When a crime has a conviction rate < 1% and weíre talking about a multi millionaire defendant, I think thatís a reasonable take away.

Have you listened to the audio? There is no excusing it away.

Yet new material that has come to light seems to have done so!

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Feb 23 8.11pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I suspect this is part of it, there are abysmally low conviction rates in this country. His defence would that it was rough play and implied to be consensual. The trial then becomes an attempt to prove she didn't consent.

Its also been going on for ages and the hearing wasn't due until Nov. So its also sucking up a huge amount of her and her families life, for something that she might not even win.

But I also wouldn't be surprised if money is involved. What if Mason offered her 20% of all future earnings to walk away from the case...?

Then she has to decide if she'd rather have him put away for x years, or be set for life at 19.

I think there is an argument for some defendants legally paying their way out of some minor crimes but not this type of crime. It already happens in many countries.

 


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View derby eagle's Profile derby eagle Flag Derby 02 Feb 23 8.14pm Send a Private Message to derby eagle Add derby eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Robk

Letís hope a clever journalist gets hold of this...and digs up the REAL reason....I can only think the main witness who we know pulled out...unreal really...

If only his father had "pulled out" no one would be having to work this sh1t out.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 02 Feb 23 9.06pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Reek's of payoff.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 02 Feb 23 11.26pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

The legal system owes it to the public and the defendant to issue far more clarity on this. The legal system including the CPS shrouds itself in secrecy. They say the law is an ass and this fully supports that view. Give us clarity.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Feb 23 12.23am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

When a crime has a conviction rate < 1% and weíre talking about a multi millionaire defendant, I think thatís a reasonable take away.

Have you listened to the audio? There is no excusing it away.

I have some sympathy with this but I'm also a little concerned by just how willing some are in their certainty of the lives of others.

There is a difference between someone being an arsehole in a dysfunctional relationship and rape.

I remember there being some weird aspects to this case and some questions, however it seems that, while this woman wasn't happy with what was going on it also looks like she didn't want to destroy his life either.

I think the question here is should the state be a moral busy body when questions exist about the situation and they aren't being backed by the partner.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.23am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Feb 23 12.24am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

Reek's of payoff.

I must admit it does.

Probably making the best bet for her own future. Hopefully he understands just how close it came and learns an important lesson.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.26am)

 


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View MrWhyNot's Profile MrWhyNot Flag 03 Feb 23 1.41am Send a Private Message to MrWhyNot Add MrWhyNot as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

Reek's of payoff.

It's not easy to go through a trial and the outcome and process are far from certain. So I concur with your view really that a point of agreement may have been reached, but of course could easily be wrong.

I doubt someone like Greenwood will avoid further problems down the line. Innocent in law, but that doesn't mean that people have to like or respect him from what's out there, or pretend that his conduct is normal.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 03 Feb 23 2.16am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I must admit it does.

Probably making the best bet for her own future. Hopefully he understands just how close it came and learns an important lesson.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.26am)

pun intended?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Feb 23 2.22am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

pun intended?

Nah.

 


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