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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 12 May 22 5.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

That is his only option left to declare a victory of sorts, but he had better be quick, I think he is running out of time.

Yesterday, I noticed that Putin trolls are online posting about the fact they have deployed BMP-1 AMs as if they were a super weapon. They are really a product from the 60s [albeit a game changer back then] with a new auto canon. They were initially meant for export only but as the Russian army is skint so they use them. They could afford 100 units. I am sure Ouzo will know more.

Putin didn't announce a general mobilisation in his victory day speech so I'm guessing he's not looking for a quick victory anymore.

The impression I get is that both the west and Russia are resolved to a long war both thinking that the other won't be able to cope with the consequences.

I've never thought this was a good hand for us but I guess we are going to find out.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 May 22 11.07pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't have 'hatred', that's mainly a word used by leftists to justify their actions against those they want to intimidate and silence.

'White supremacist', that's another phrase most often used by leftists and those willing to bend in the wind to their ideas.

Just what is meant by 'supremacist'? Human beings are born with the genetics by the luck of the draw. These people are about language manipulation to justify themselves. They don't care about anything even close to truth.

For all those that oppose people like WE and his supporters and what they represent I urge them to check out Neema, who isn't white and so doesn't nicely fit their slurs and dishonest language. He is someone who was once a darling of these type of people and a published Shakespearean scholar, but who now sees and dismays over where their ideas are taking Europe and humanity. Rather than listen to people like WE here is his channel.

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I don't 'hate', and I'll let your ending description show where the truth is in this.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 May 2022 7.17am)

Oh you hate alright, even if you are in denial about it. You are blinded by hatred.

Of course, "white supremacist" is a term used by those who oppose them. They are unlikely to use it themselves, especially as they don't even recognise that's what they are.

A "supremacist" is someone who sees themselves, and people like themselves, as superior to those who aren't, on irrational grounds.

I am not so sure "Neema" doesn't consider himself "white". He is certainly a cheer leader for those who think racial difference is important.

I am aware of what he was, but his views changed sufficiently for him to lose his job because of them. Having found a niche to exploit in which to make money, he is now busy pandering to that sentiment. It has shades of Alex Jones, and others, in the USA, who milk the gullible by feeding them with their desire for confirmation of their biases.

That's what his "channel" is all about.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 May 22 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

So you believe the likes of the UN, the WHO, the BIS etc have no impact on the way we live our lives?

By the way, in your analogy the cox literally steers the boat.

Edited by W12 (12 May 2022 6.45am)

Of course, they impact our lives. No point in their existence otherwise. It's all for the better.

The cox does steer the boat. That's the point. He keeps willing participants together, pointing in the same direction. No-one though has to get into the boat. That's their choice alone. They can paddle their own canoe. Wanna bet who is going to get places faster, and survive the chopper water when it arrives?

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (12 May 2022 11.13pm)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 May 22 11.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are the biggest hypocrite these boards have ever seen.

Your kind's constant vilification of Trump when he was the elected POTUS was unprecedented and shameful.

And you have the audacity to talk about 'hate' in that context.

Do us all a favour and lose your keyboard somewhere where the sun doesn't shine.

Your memory fails you. I said many times that I don't hate Trump. I feel sorry for him. No-one quite as awful as he is, can be a happy man. He has a personality defect so huge, it must be very difficult to ever have a true friend. What I hate is Trumpism, those people who manipulated him into the WH and allowed the enormous divide in the USA to be widened as a consequence.

Trump will eventually have to face justice, or confinement, if he survives for long enough.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 May 22 5.24am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Oh you hate alright, even if you are in denial about it. You are blinded by hatred.

Of course, "white supremacist" is a term used by those who oppose them. They are unlikely to use it themselves, especially as they don't even recognise that's what they are.

A "supremacist" is someone who sees themselves, and people like themselves, as superior to those who aren't, on irrational grounds.

I am not so sure "Neema" doesn't consider himself "white". He is certainly a cheer leader for those who think racial difference is important.

I am aware of what he was, but his views changed sufficiently for him to lose his job because of them. Having found a niche to exploit in which to make money, he is now busy pandering to that sentiment. It has shades of Alex Jones, and others, in the USA, who milk the gullible by feeding them with their desire for confirmation of their biases.

That's what his "channel" is all about.

Everything you write here is only true in your head. I seriously think you are mentally unwell.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 May 2022 5.33am)

 


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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 13 May 22 9.58am Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Was watching the deal between Finland and Britain. Wonder how that will go? Seems an interesting development. Heard recently that Finland has a decent military but didn't particularly look into it.

I haven't looked into this, but I'd imagine we have 'war treaties' or suchlike with other countries which are reciprocal. So if the Ruskies invade Finland before they're fully in Nato, we're obliged to jump in, and then maybe that automatically triggers other countries to join in via their treaties with us? A theory.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 May 22 10.22am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

I haven't looked into this, but I'd imagine we have 'war treaties' or suchlike with other countries which are reciprocal. So if the Ruskies invade Finland before they're fully in Nato, we're obliged to jump in, and then maybe that automatically triggers other countries to join in via their treaties with us? A theory.

The Russians lost 100s of thousands the last time they attacked Finland. The winter war. They eventually won through sheer weight of numbers. Can't imagine they would have those numbers again, or that soldiers of today just run into machine gun fire and sacrifice themselves for Mother Russia.
I heard Finland has integrated artillery and anti aircraft systems all expecting Russian aggression. A relatively large (by European standards) well trained military. Could have more than the UK for all I know. They won't have the amount of jets, navy and nukes though.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 May 22 11.39am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Everything you write here is only true in your head. I seriously think you are mentally unwell.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 May 2022 5.33am)

Anyone reading your diatribes on Blair and Biden would be likely to conclude they are the result of hatred, because they don't make any sense otherwise. They take all the easy critical pickings, which anyone who actually holds responsibility provides, and mix them into irrational blasts from an irrational man, full of hatred.

That's not in my head. It's here, in your words. My mental health is fine.

 

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View W12's Profile W12 13 May 22 1.27pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

More murderous neo-nazis taken out by brave Russian soliders /s

This looks very much like a load of bollocks by the way:

You have inconsistency in the position of shadows in different parts of the video

Cropped dates, and where they are visible, some footage from different days and hours

Oddities in the staging: military waiting for a command, unclear where the second military man went, cut out part of the watchman's death

The interior of the gatehouse is different in different shots

The uniforms of the Russian Armed Forces do not match (wrong/outdated vests etc)

The vehicle is marked "tank special forces," there is no such unit and it's a white transit van also daubed with "RUS" on the side in black paint.


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 13 May 22 1.52pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by W12

This looks very much like a load of bollocks by the way:

You have inconsistency in the position of shadows in different parts of the video
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Unfortunately this seals the deal. The only reason I even posted this is because you post absolutely anything going, often with zero accompanying info or verification of any kind to show Ukranians in a 'war crimes' light. When something with significant evidence to back it up in comparison (context, identification and footage wise) comes up displaying the patently obvious (that war crimes are clearly also, and often mainly, committed by aggressors in an invasion situation) you simply can't countenance that it could ever be real. "Position of shadows'.. I mean come on. And you wonder why the only war crime footage you say you've seen is Ukranian? You've answered your own question.

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View W12's Profile W12 13 May 22 2.23pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Unfortunately this seals the deal. The only reason I even posted this is because you post absolutely anything going, often with zero accompanying info or verification of any kind to show Ukranians in a 'war crimes' light. When something with significant evidence to back it up in comparison (context and footage wise) comes up displaying the patently obvious (that war crimes are clearly also, and often mainly, committed by aggressors in an invasion situation) you simply can't countenance that it could ever be real. "Position of shadows'.. I mean come on. And you wonder why the only war crime footage you say you've seen is Ukranian? You've answered your own question.

There has been a war going on in the Donbas since 2014

At least 14,000 killed since then.

What is it you don't get?

Search "Azov atrocities"

You could learn a lot about the historically complex situation from someone like Colonel Jacques Baud (a neutral intelligence expert) but will you even try?

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I'm not someone who thinks Russians are above war crimes as I think culturally these two people are similar and psychos are everywhere and emboldened by the brutality of war and its chaos.

However, anyone who claims they know the breakdown of war crimes is only speaking in their own capacity. No one actually knows. The best you can do is watch the footage of what is posted by both sides and take in reports on the ground from independent sources....not that many exist.

I'm someone who believes in the professionalism of European armies, eastern or not, and while I recognise that there are edge cases and unfortunate circumstances where people die. That said there is a big gap between that and deliberately murdering civilians or pows.

This is either the command structure of units being corrupted, state security elements or rogue or mercenary elements. Whichever side does this sick evil stuff it needs to be investigated and fair judgement made.....Do I think this will happen on either side? No.

This latest event however is receiving a lot of press. Perhaps this will get proper investigation. All the questions looked into and a conclusion reached. If what is reported is accurate I do indeed hope those soldiers are brought to justice.

What I will say is that anyone is serious about the truth of this war and is looking at footage of war crimes from more than just one side will understand that it isn't one sided by any stretch of the imagination.

I could put footage of Ukrainians knee cappings Russian pows who were left to die and who where humiliated while they died with their bodies reportedly burnt after it....we were told this would be investigated....yeah right.

I could link to where footage of a tied up Russian pow being knifed and then finally murdered with a knife through the eye into the brain....all complete with screams.....that stuff makes you very angry.

There are mass claims by citizens in the Donbas of Ukrainian civilians being fired on by Ukrainian troops.....there is certainly shelling of civilian areas by the Ukraine....even the UN have reported on that.

There is sick and twisted stuff in this war.....is it more sick than any other war....I doubt it but a lot of it has certainly been videoed.

You only get shown what the filters allow.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 May 2022 2.33pm)

 


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