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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, personally I think Steely is right.....then again he wrote that back at the start and he seemed to flip on it....Don't know what he thinks now. Anyway what is the advantage to the west of Ukraine in NATO? A practical resolution to the Ukraine war and Russia eventually back in the G8 and working against a Russian/China BRICS v Western competitive world is just common sense. Not that I agree with the policy but once the war is finished you're probably going to get a North/South Korea like dividing line.....At that point no doubt they will find a way of putting Ukraine in Nato.
It is in some ways. But at what other cost(s)? I never thought the west going full softboi and being a cuck to Putin (to use a righty term) would be appealing to you
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I see that crook has gone over to the Whitehouse for a photoshoot and pocket a couple of million.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
It is in some ways. But at what other cost(s)? I never thought the west going full softboi and being a cuck to Putin (to use a righty term) would be appealing to you Ha! I understand why you would fight for this establishment. I can understand why Ukrainian nationalists would fight (even though many of them are now dead or injured and what most of them would want probably wouldn't chime with you politically) and of course we know why some eastern countries have a hatred of Russia. But I'm a social conservative....What in earth am I fighting Putin for? Child mutilation and Pride month? The EU? That bunch of corporate and US cucks? Cold war? World economic division? I can't believe just how stupid it all is. Whatever the war's result, whenever it ends. We are going to be part of picking up the economic tab on rebuilding Ukraine and that country is ruined and we aren't even housing our own people and have a cost of living crises. People don't seem to realise what the costs are here, especially coming after covid. Our politicians, as usual, just aren't being honest....People think we are insulated but just haven't connected the dots, because the man on the telly isn't telling them. The reality is that when the US or their proxies destroyed that pipeline it has badly damaged the Germany economy. That doesn't just affect Germany but has a ripple effect across Europe.....How long this lasts and what the outcome is remains unclear. My view is similar to Orban's and a huge amount of damage has been done by warmongering and escalation when this could have been settled relatively easily.....but similar to covid we have had half truths and fear mongering. Continuing this war instead of negotiating was the opposite of common sense but that was the path taken. I said at the start that it was a busted flush. What's the gain in it?.....giving Putin a bloody nose? I'm supposed to think that's worth what's happening compared to the downsides? It's like playing chess with emotion instead of using reason. Oh the continual luxury to giving billions away on optional wars when we can't even cover our budget. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Sep 2023 4.33am)
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If this actually happened as claimed then Wtf? [Tweet Link]
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lol
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Russell Brand sums up my position and plenty of others on this incredibly dangerous and damaging war more succinctly than I could myself. Low quality elites.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Russell Brand sums up my position and plenty of others on this incredibly dangerous and damaging war more succinctly than I could myself. Low quality elites. I said this all at the start of it all. Also good to see Russell brand back on youtube.
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
I said this all at the start of it all. Also good to see Russell brand back on youtube. Yep, Farage was saying it donkey years ago, as were several high ranking dipomats....as is pointed out in the vid. All mostly memory holed and never mentioned in the mainstream.....because apparently that's 'Russian propaganda'.....Which always seems to be any narrative other than theirs.
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I guess we just have to add Dominic Cummings to the list of those pushing 'Russian propaganda' for having an opposing opinion on this war. Even though polling shows that many disagree with many elements of it despite almost constant pro war propaganda from our media. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2023 2.35pm)
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In the past few hours, I’ve seen more war footage from Israel than in the entirety of this so called “war” in Ukraine that is supposedly going on. Why is thati wonder?
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
In the past few hours, I’ve seen more war footage from Israel than in the entirety of this so called “war” in Ukraine that is supposedly going on. Why is thati wonder? You know why.
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[Tweet Link]
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