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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 07 Apr 22 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Your memory is fading a bit I'm afraid!

She wasn't Native American; she had a Native American father and a European American mother. She was a successful actress and model, and (yes) a campaigner for civil rights for Native Americans.

She didn't receive the Oscar; she explained why Brando wished to decline it.

She expressed Brando's displeasure regarding the portrayal of Native Americans by the movie industry. She also drew attention to the 'Wounded Knee Occupation' that was taking place at the time. It wasn't a castigation of the USA for its treatment of Native Americans, as such.

The Oscar award was indeed for The Godfather. I wonder what would have transpired had Brando not won!

Thanks YT. I'm a bit old school and share information from my memory rather than look up Wikki before I say anything.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Apr 22 6.16pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Old clip of Jada Pinkett Smith forcing Will Smith to respond on her IG Live resurfaces - [Link]

A reasonable request met with unreasonable, controlling behaviour.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Apr 2022 6.37pm)

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 08 Apr 22 8.13pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Will Smith just trying to make his ungrateful wife happy - [Link]

Oh lord, it doesn't get any better does it..

Anyway, banned from the Oscars for ten years, so that's that.

Edited by BlueJay (08 Apr 2022 8.15pm)

 

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View Cannonball's Profile Cannonball Flag High in the Ozarks. 14 Apr 22 5.54pm Send a Private Message to Cannonball Add Cannonball as a friend

Pity he hasnt been banned from acting for ten years.

 


God looked down and said "things are bad,I need to give the world an enema,..now where exactly is Liverpool ? "

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Apr 22 6.33pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Cannonball

Pity he hasnt been banned from acting for ten years.

In order to ban someone from an activity, they usually have to actually do that activity in the first place. In this case "acting" is perhaps a bit of an exaggeration.

 


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He decked a bin dipper - respect.

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 May 22 11.26am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I have no idea why you are all fixated on the 'open marriage' angle of this. The jibe at Will Smith's wife was, "I can't wait for G.I.Jane two", (G.I.Jane had Demi Moore featured with a shaved head). This was a reference to her alopecia. A condition which she clearly has no control over. It's about the same level of bullying you get in the school playground. Any man or woman should quite rightly stand up and defend their partner, or any person, with a condition or disability. I'm not condoning the slap to the face (I'd have done worse), but to trivialise it as being about an 'open marriage' beggars belief.

Quote In any other scenario, Rock would have been called out for bullying. There is only one way to deal with bullies.

Your perspective continues to age like milk [Link] You don't get to attack someone because they make jokes you don't like, as I repeatedly highlighted in the process of you being outraged by a hair joke and blaming the victim as assault for 'bullying' with a need to 'deal with bullies'. I highlighted that any diminishing of this behaviour or blame heaped on the assaulted would lead to further attacks and here we are shortly after. A dangerous precedent indeed.


Edited by BlueJay (04 May 2022 12.24pm)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 May 22 12.01pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Your perspective continues to age like milk [Link] You don't get to attack someone because they make jokes you don't like, as I repeatedly highlighted in the process of you being outraged by a hair joke and blaming the victim as assault for 'bullying' with a need to 'deal with bullies'. I highlighted that any diminishing of this behaviour or blame heaped on the assaulted would lead to further attacks and here we are shortly after. A dangerous precedent indeed.

Edited by BlueJay (04 May 2022 11.27am)

I presume this is what you were referring to:
[Link]

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 May 22 12.33pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I presume this is what you were referring to:
[Link]

Yes, now corrected, a full stop did my link in .

In a wider context I know that Dave's trans jokes have made waves, and that it can now sometimes actually be pretty profitable in itself now in comedy to play the 'you cant say anything nowadays (while saying it) angle. The pendulum swings. Still, to my mind comedy is an art form where you have to be able to push things and look at the absurdity of it all. If something's funny it's funny. If it's not we don't have the right to be offended to the extent that we're lamping people, else there can be no live comedy to begin with. I hope whenever this happens people serve time, as each time it's an encouragement of more of the same.

Edited by BlueJay (04 May 2022 12.36pm)

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 04 May 22 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

I don't know if it's already been mentioned on this thread however the Chappelle incident is an astonishing example of people holding extremist views feeling justified in resorting to violence.

We seem to have skipped that part of the spectrum where basic tenets such as "Don't abuse people for race, disability etc.' and providing 'equal opportunity' in the world of employment and so forth have paved the way for a massive jump to nonsensical ideologies which, where previously ridiculed, are now considered not only acceptable but also almost fashionable to support/espouse.

I've said it many times, including on this forum, but extremist views from either end of the spectrum, for me, are often for those who are deeply unhappy with their own failings in life and therefore, given the opportunity, will latch on to anything that sounds remotely plausible or acceptable and use it to justify extreme action to fill that void in themselves.

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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Story today about a rape victim who is taking a Brighton Rape Crisis centre to court because they allow Trans men into their meetings. This charity paid for by the taxpayer of course says that is fine.

Well I don't men can also be rape victims whether they are gay / trans or whatever however commonsense says you should keep these groups apart. Why on earth they can't have separate meetings...

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Many men get off on the power trip that comes with rape, at these meetings women no doubt will tell their story about what happened, meanwhile some bloke could be sitting there enjoying it.

Edited by Badger11 (04 May 2022 1.05pm)

Edited by Badger11 (04 May 2022 1.06pm)

 


One more point

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 May 22 1.21pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I don't know if it's already been mentioned on this thread however the Chappelle incident is an astonishing example of people holding extremist views feeling justified in resorting to violence.

We seem to have skipped that part of the spectrum where basic tenets such as "Don't abuse people for race, disability etc.' and providing 'equal opportunity' in the world of employment and so forth have paved the way for a massive jump to nonsensical ideologies which, where previously ridiculed, are now considered not only acceptable but also almost fashionable to support/espouse.

I've said it many times, including on this forum, but extremist views from either end of the spectrum, for me, are often for those who are deeply unhappy with their own failings in life and therefore, given the opportunity, will latch on to anything that sounds remotely plausible or acceptable and use it to justify extreme action to fill that void in themselves.

Certainly, I agree... well dependent on why this happened of course. I'm 'assuming' it may have been linked to previous efforts to shut him down.. the separate point really was that the frankly weird reaction to the Oscars assault (it 'somehow' seemed to get lots of people coming out in support of the attacker) creates a perfect storm where people feel justified to attacks comedians for jokes. While word can sometimes lead to violence (see: my local) it's the last thing that should ever be encouraged.

Rightmminded final paragraph too. It's always those who fall short in life, left or right that drift to extremes. They feel entitled and that 'normies' don't get it, so seek out those with the same or likely more pronounced outlooks to legitimise their own failed outlook. It's unfortunate, because it reflects on others of similar concerns or creeds who manage to get on with life just fine. I've always said that 'take as you find' is all you need. Black or white, Arthur or Martha, left or right, if someone is a decent and fair person it's as quickly apparent as if they're anything but.

Often the more politically partisan someone becomes, the more you lose the person and are just left with a useless collection of virus like talking points in their place. It benefits no-one.


 

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Originally posted by Badger11

Story today about a rape victim who is taking a Brighton Rape Crisis centre to court because they allow Trans men into their meetings. This charity paid for by the taxpayer of course says that is fine.

Well I don't men can also be rape victims whether they are gay / trans or whatever however commonsense says you should keep these groups apart. Why on earth they can't have separate meetings...

[Link]

Many men get off on the power trip that comes with rape, at these meetings women no doubt will tell their story about what happened, meanwhile some bloke could be sitting there enjoying it.

Edited by Badger11 (04 May 2022 1.05pm)

Edited by Badger11 (04 May 2022 1.06pm)

I do think this might be a bit alarmist (the Daily Mail way), in that if someone is a genuine victim of sexual assault, it's unfair to automatically assume that they might be a secret sexual predator getting off on rape stories. I think we have to have a balance of probability and support people if they feel they need it and something terrible has happened to them.

I get your point though, that in these settings people need to be made to feel comfortable and whatever best achieves that should be the way forward. Individual support groups should make their own decisions on that. So if that's through separate or the same groups, whatever those in the groups feel comfortable with. I agree that we are in a weird time where womens spaces are being encroached upon by left and right alike. I read something the other day as result of the potential US abortion changes that said it's curious that in American a man can become a woman, but a woman will soon be allowed much less less control over her own body. Pause for thought.


 

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