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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Apr 22 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Denzel Washington DC . Problem solved. Next!

They might prefer Del Boy or Boycie.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 05 Apr 22 7.23pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

They might prefer Del Boy or Boycie.

Dave DC

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Apr 22 7.26pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Dave DC

Anything but Trigger. Bit on the nose for Anerica.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 05 Apr 22 7.39pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Anything but Trigger. Bit on the nose for Anerica.

Haha indeed

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 05 Apr 22 9.31pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well, it would be nice to celebrate those that first created salves and other soothing balms but I don't think that is what is going on.

I continue to suggest people read what the Council actually said not the Daily Mail's rant about what it implies. Anyone actually believing the Daily Mail's take on anything needs serious therapy. Or is not just credulous but dangerously gullible.

This seems more balanced from Sky News in June 2021

Glasgow's review into statues and place names was already under way before the controversy began last year. (this refers to Colston's statue, which is now to be found in L Shed in Bristol - Mapletree)

Members of the public there will be consulted on the future of statues in their city, such as 19th century military leader Field Marshal Frederick Roberts, who is accused of helping to set up concentration camps, and Sir John Moore, who participated in both the Royal African and East India Companies.

Of course they intend to remove statues and change street names. Your denial of it is just the usual dissembling from types like you.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Apr 22 11.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Of course they intend to remove statues and change street names. Your denial of it is just the usual dissembling from types like you.

I think you are adding 2 and 2 and making the answer 10!

Commissioning a report on any matter that might need to be addressed in the future doesn't mean that any decisions have been taken, or that any particular decision is more likely than any other. It simply means that those who might need to take the decisions know the grounds on which they must be taken. Surely it's better that they act on real knowledge than make assumptions?

This is just the kind of thing that the gutter press do. Whip up emotions by publishing half-truths, blended with innuendos.

This distracts from the real issue. Which is how to square the circle of accepting that the behaviour of our forebears didn't always match the moralities we now hold, whilst honouring the fact that it is our history?

It seems to me that there are ways to do that, which can be discussed without getting emotional, and will likely satisfy everyone.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Apr 22 11.53pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think you are adding 2 and 2 and making the answer 10!

Commissioning a report on any matter that might need to be addressed in the future doesn't mean that any decisions have been taken, or that any particular decision is more likely than any other. It simply means that those who might need to take the decisions know the grounds on which they must be taken. Surely it's better that they act on real knowledge than make assumptions?

This is just the kind of thing that the gutter press do. Whip up emotions by publishing half-truths, blended with innuendos.

This distracts from the real issue. Which is how to square the circle of accepting that the behaviour of our forebears didn't always match the moralities we now hold, whilst honouring the fact that it is our history?

It seems to me that there are ways to do that, which can be discussed without getting emotional, and will likely satisfy everyone.

It isnít an assumption that Glasgow City Council is facing a £20,000,000 shortfall in itís budget and has far more urgent social problems to address.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Apr 22 12.11am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It isnít an assumption that Glasgow City Council is facing a £20,000,000 shortfall in itís budget and has far more urgent social problems to address.

I may well agree with you on that. Albeit it's a non sequitur

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Apr 22 12.14am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It isnít an assumption that Glasgow City Council is facing a £20,000,000 shortfall in itís budget and has far more urgent social problems to address.

Wasn't this report commissioned quite some time ago?

Deciding priorities will always produce disagreement. That's the nature of having boundless needs and limited resources.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 22 12.27am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wasn't this report commissioned quite some time ago?

Deciding priorities will always produce disagreement. That's the nature of having boundless needs and limited resources.

Glasgowís social problems started a long time ago as well.
Expect those who live there would provide a lot of disagreement.

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think you are adding 2 and 2 and making the answer 10!

Commissioning a report on any matter that might need to be addressed in the future doesn't mean that any decisions have been taken, or that any particular decision is more likely than any other. It simply means that those who might need to take the decisions know the grounds on which they must be taken. Surely it's better that they act on real knowledge than make assumptions?

This is just the kind of thing that the gutter press do. Whip up emotions by publishing half-truths, blended with innuendos.

This distracts from the real issue. Which is how to square the circle of accepting that the behaviour of our forebears didn't always match the moralities we now hold, whilst honouring the fact that it is our history?

It seems to me that there are ways to do that, which can be discussed without getting emotional, and will likely satisfy everyone.

I'm merely stating what is obvious and in front of one's nose. Of course they are intending to remove statues and rename streets and building as part of the woke agenda of "who controls the past, controls the future" - 'the most effective way to destroy a people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history' [Orwell].

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Apr 22 11.03am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

I'm merely stating what is obvious and in front of one's nose. Of course they are intending to remove statues and rename streets and building as part of the woke agenda of "who controls the past, controls the future" - 'the most effective way to destroy a people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history' [Orwell].

As we are going round in circles, we will just to wait and see what actually happens, won't we?

My guess? There will be some acknowledgement and establishment of context, but the story won't be erased. It will be updated and continued. This is a journey, not a destination.

 

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