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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 06 Apr 22 11.21am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As we are going round in circles, we will just to wait and see what actually happens, won't we?

My guess? There will be some acknowledgement and establishment of context, but the story won't be erased. It will be updated and continued. This is a journey, not a destination.

"In certain kinds of writing, particularly in art criticism and literary criticism, it is normal to come across long passages which are almost completely lacking in meaning." [Orwell]

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 22 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As we are going round in circles, we will just to wait and see what actually happens, won't we?

My guess? There will be some acknowledgement and establishment of context, but the story won't be erased. It will be updated and continued. This is a journey, not a destination.

None of which answers the OPs original question about David Livingstone.

 

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View Runningman's Profile Runningman Online Flag Keston 06 Apr 22 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Runningman Add Runningman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It isnít an assumption that Glasgow City Council is facing a £20,000,000 shortfall in itís budget and has far more urgent social problems to address.

Thatís Ok the English taxpayers will pick up the tab !

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 22 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Runningman

Thatís Ok the English taxpayers will pick up the tab !

Itís called Diet Coke now.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Apr 22 6.59pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

None of which answers the OPs original question about David Livingstone.

It's expanded a bit since there, but I don't, and I very much doubt anybody else does. Expanding the explanation of his life on the plinth..............?

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 22 7.07pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's expanded a bit since there, but I don't, and I very much doubt anybody else does. Expanding the explanation of his life on the plinth..............?

For want of a better expression itís the thin end of the wedge - start off at one extreme and eventually more and more people get included. In this case someone who was explicitly anti-slavery.

 

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View mtp1958's Profile mtp1958 Flag Grays 06 Apr 22 7.36pm Send a Private Message to mtp1958 Add mtp1958 as a friend

The one thing that has been missed by you all is the people who drive this issue into the open , do it just to make a name for themselves , I have many friends from diferent back grounds and when i bring up about slavery they say , they embarrassed by it because they are not speaking for them , only themselves. so were do we stop , do we criminalise everyones back ground im sure we all have a link to wrong doing in history thats not PC ,

dont remove history learn from it

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Apr 22 9.42pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

For want of a better expression itís the thin end of the wedge - start off at one extreme and eventually more and more people get included. In this case someone who was explicitly anti-slavery.

As it seems the idea is to consult the local people and ask them what they would like to do, what do you expect their answer will be?

Is it not possible that this is all to demonstrate how those who want to pull things down are in a tiny minority?

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 22 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As it seems the idea is to consult the local people and ask them what they would like to do, what do you expect their answer will be?

Is it not possible that this is all to demonstrate how those who want to pull things down are in a tiny minority?

Yes, itís possible but itís a vanishingly small possibility.
As Iíve said Glaswegians have many more pressing concerns than statues; the one of the Duke of Wellington has famously had a traffic cone on his head for the last 40 odd years.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Apr 22 10.18pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

they believe the statue of David Livingstone statue in Glasgow should be removed because of his link to slavery?

Donít know about woke

But anyway no, it should not be removed. And it wonít be removed

Like almost all councils that are in towns which benefited significantly from slavery Glasgow City Council commissioned a report on the remaining links to slavery

It just so happened that Glasgow University had already done a report on its own historic benefits from slavery, in 2018. The same researcher, Stephen Mullen, was commissioned to produce the report in 2019.

Dr Stephen Mullen found that eight statues and a number of streets could be considered to have links to slavery

The Council will now consult with its residents on whether any action is needed and if so what.

The Daily Mail has claimed the statue of David Livingstone Ďmightí be removed. In the same way as I Ďmightí shag Scarlett Johansson. It has done this as click bait to wind up as many Mr Angries as it can. Even though the Council made no comment about Livingstone and the report was the work of Glasgow University..

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 06 Apr 22 10.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Donít know about woke

But anyway no, it should not be removed. And it wonít be removed

Like almost all councils that are in towns which benefited significantly from slavery Glasgow City Council commissioned a report on the remaining links to slavery

It just so happened that Glasgow University had already done a report on its own historic benefits from slavery, in 2018. The same researcher, Stephen Mullen, was commissioned to produce the report in 2019.

Dr Stephen Mullen found that eight statues and a number of streets could be considered to have links to slavery

The Council will now consult with its residents on whether any action is needed and if so what.

The Daily Mail has claimed the statue of David Livingstone Ďmightí be removed. In the same way as I Ďmightí shag Scarlett Johansson. It has done this as click bait to wind up as many Mr Angries as it can. Even though the Council made no comment about Livingstone and the report was the work of Glasgow University..

I don't mean to be cruel but I should think David Livingstone himself has more chance of reassembling from his original atoms, sliding into bed with the wanton Scarlett Johansson and saying, 'Dr Livingstone? Let's presume all night' than you have of introducing Johansson to bodily fluids.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Apr 22 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't mean to be cruel but I should think David Livingstone himself has more chance of reassembling from his original atoms, sliding into bed with the wanton Scarlett Johansson and saying, 'Dr Livingstone? Let's presume all night' than you have of introducing Johansson to bodily fluids.

You're not being the least bit cruel. You are trying, and failing spectacularly, to be funny, because all you are saying, in a convoluted way, is precisely what Maple himself said.

Cue the attempted smart-arse reply!

 

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