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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Apr 22 10.42pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

TBH, it was to keep up a tax flow to support our to social policies like an aging population and a heavy state pension scheme burden.

I doubt all those plumbers were voting Labour.

All those unavailable youngsters encouraged to go to university may have a lot to do with it. No apprenticeships, just figures and as quick as Tony, Gordon, Alastair and Peter could manipulate them, I mean show them. People here have been let down unless you’re a well above average for income in your area.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 25 Apr 22 11.51pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who on earth do you think is doing the "encouraging"?

Most employers would much prefer to employ locally born people. Communication is much easier as a start. But if you cannot recruit people, even when you offer on the job training, then you have little choice. The motivation isn't profit. It's survival.

There is a skills shortage. Our training facilities, whilst improving, remain inadequate. Whilst we were in the EU the gaps were filled mainly from Eastern Europe. The gaps still exist, so now what do we do?

This is a systemic problem which goes right back to basics. It starts in the school system, continues in the Universities and throughout the working life. We need to constantly train and retrain, but we don't. It needs to be solved, but will take many years and shedloads of money, which is needed elsewhere.

The issue is simple to solve. Stop forcing kids to stay at school and keep learning crap. Get them working from 16 if they want; both earning dough, learning the value of it and climbing the ladder. Not expecting and being told they can go straight on to the top rung!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Apr 22 6.53am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who on earth do you think is doing the "encouraging"?

Most employers would much prefer to employ locally born people. Communication is much easier as a start. But if you cannot recruit people, even when you offer on the job training, then you have little choice. The motivation isn't profit. It's survival.

There is a skills shortage. Our training facilities, whilst improving, remain inadequate. Whilst we were in the EU the gaps were filled mainly from Eastern Europe. The gaps still exist, so now what do we do?

This is a systemic problem which goes right back to basics. It starts in the school system, continues in the Universities and throughout the working life. We need to constantly train and retrain, but we don't. It needs to be solved, but will take many years and shedloads of money, which is needed elsewhere.

We created the need. Well done. You’re getting there. By we, I mean the country. Well actually the Labour government. Companies didn’t help, but there could’ve been incentives.

And Labour did encourage East Europeans over here. It takes some believing. Ignore the working classes, encourage 50% into university. For what purpose nobody knows, but he still thinks it’s credible.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Apr 2022 6.55am)

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Apr 22 6.57am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

The issue is simple to solve. Stop forcing kids to stay at school and keep learning crap. Get them working from 16 if they want; both earning dough, learning the value of it and climbing the ladder. Not expecting and being told they can go straight on to the top rung!

A tertiary education is useful for shelf stacking and warehouse picking these days. Watch on while newcomers progress. The idiots pushing this have no idea.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Apr 22 8.03am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are the one talking rubbish.

Behavioural evolution is regarded by some as a science on its own. You are speaking only of the evolution of living things, but many things evolve. Systems evolve. It merely means to change to suit new circumstances.

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Globalism is a result of our shrinking world, due to technological advancements which enable the transfer of things, and people, in ways that didn't previously exist. That some seek to profit from it, is a consequence, not the cause.

That we need to exercise control over those consequences is beyond doubt. As is that we need new global structures to do so. What isn't true is that we can simply stop it. The world has already changed, and there is no return to what existed before. That's why it has evolved.

We can control who enters this country if we are motivated enough.
The idea that we can't is absurd. Right now we are being thwarted by man made laws and conventions. They can be changed.

Don't tell me it can't be done. That is claptrap. You are a defeatist, and worse, an advocate, and that makes you complicit in the destruction of this country.

 

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View W12's Profile W12 26 Apr 22 8.33am Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are the one talking rubbish.

Behavioural evolution is regarded by some as a science on its own. You are speaking only of the evolution of living things, but many things evolve. Systems evolve. It merely means to change to suit new circumstances.

[Link]

Globalism is a result of our shrinking world, due to technological advancements which enable the transfer of things, and people, in ways that didn't previously exist. That some seek to profit from it, is a consequence, not the cause.

That we need to exercise control over those consequences is beyond doubt. As is that we need new global structures to do so. What isn't true is that we can simply stop it. The world has already changed, and there is no return to what existed before. That's why it has evolved.

You do not understand the difference between globalisation and globalism.

Globalism is an "ism" i.e. an ideology. This ideology is summed up by people like Yuval Noah Harari. Basically national identify and spirituality can go hang, you are no more than a meat puppet and you will be replaced or subsumed by technology.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Apr 22 9.02am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

A tertiary education is useful for shelf stacking and warehouse picking these days. Watch on while newcomers progress. The idiots pushing this have no idea.

Uni is a great place to read Marx, wear black clothes with blue hair, and learn to throw rocks at people with opinions different to yourself. Learn the importance of crying to get the things you want.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Apr 22 9.26am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Uni is a great place to read Marx, wear black clothes with blue hair, and learn to throw rocks at people with opinions different to yourself. Learn the importance of crying to get the things you want.

Fair comment.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Apr 22 9.30am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Uni is a great place to read Marx, wear black clothes with blue hair, and learn to throw rocks at people with opinions different to yourself. Learn the importance of crying to get the things you want.

The problem with Universities these days is that they are no longer institutions for further educating those who warrant that commitment.

I'm still quite young, and enjoyed reasonable academic success (through nature must be said, I was always committedly lazy) however I had no shortage of 'thick' mates, much as I love them... somewhat inevitable growing up in Lewisham.

I'd suggest about 10% went to prison, 10% went to prison for substantial periods of time with a number still there, about 40% found reasonable work and shockingly about 40% went to University.

A lot of those who went to Uni had about the same cerebral capacity as those who found work by the age of 18/19/20. The ones who found work all seem to be homeowners now with reasonable wages etc. Those that went to Uni, in their main, show no signs of intellectualism, are still paying off debts, have ludicrous jobs in fields/roles they have been led to believe they belong in, but know deep down they do not, and earn barely livable wages to sustain their disillusionment with 'adulthood'. A few still even live at home (late 20s/early 30's).

It's no wonder anybody may be under the impression we need to import the likes of skilled labourers, a seriously undervalued necessity in society, from anywhere and everywhere. In the meantime, we'll still work hard on figuring out what value degrees actually hold when the likes of being somewhat literate is supposedly now a sufficient barometer to warrant a loan of tens of thousands of pounds to study 'English Literature' before moving on to work part time behind a bar or become a 'personal trainer' etc.

Talent schemes, such as apprenticeships, should really be the way forward for this nation. I'm glad that a diversity push has paved the way for many to now be able to go in to further education but let's not conflate this with the issue of providing people with an ends to justify those means. Should anything stop you from entering University and furthering your education, only one IMHO, if you are not able to utilise the opportunity to benefit the overall economy and yourself in later life. It shouldn't be painted as some sort of given for anyone who 'fancies it'.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Apr 22 10.54am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Higher education, lower wages and/or earning ability and less desire/affordability to have children or own a home is all part of the western elites and big business owners’ plans. What this country is going to look like in 35 years I expyto be a real shame and shameful. But Tony Blair got rich steering us.

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 26 Apr 22 11.27am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Higher education, lower wages and/or earning ability and less desire/affordability to have children or own a home is all part of the western elites and big business owners’ plans. What this country is going to look like in 35 years I expyto be a real shame and shameful. But Tony Blair got rich steering us.

Stange sort of plan by elites and big business then - impoverish people so that they will be unable to buy the products of business.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Apr 22 11.35am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Stange sort of plan by elites and big business then - impoverish people so that they will be unable to buy the products of business.

Wages are a huge cost. Plus the youth are accepting they cannot own property so buy stuff or borrow credit. Credit, keeps workers relying on any work.

 


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