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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 20 May 22 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Whatever way you look at it we are roughly in the same position as we were last season points and position wise and no nearer being in the top half of the table as some were suggesting a week or so ago. The reality is that we have had a bang average CP season, albeit that the football has been good to watch (sometimes), however the problems of last season (lack of goals) is still with us and we lack the ability to be able to defend set pieces and crosses in to the box. Sure we have had changes on a massive scale but the squad is still lacking and once CG (our best player this year!) goes back to Chelsea then the team is going to be much weaker unless we can find a suitable replacement, plus a half decent striker and at least two or three others. Next season is going to be much harder as the opposition coaches will be in a much better position to counter PV's set ups for the team as they have had a season to study him and his methods.

You obviously donít check.

We have scored 18 more goals than last season with one game to go and conceded 5 less.
Most have enjoyed a more entertaining style of play, you seem to miss the old Royball style.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 20 May 22 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

How do you know?

Goodison Park was a cauldron. I have not heard such a loud vociferous crowd in a long time. Must have been giving out steroids at the turnstiles.

 

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View daven's Profile daven Flag 20 May 22 1.33pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

Just supposing our players said that they felt threatened after the first pitch invasion and walked off the pitch. What would have been the outcome.
I believe that our players would have been affected by the pitch invasion and could possibly have equalised.
If Everton stay up only because of that result then could Burnley or Leeds have a case for complaint.
Yes they got the fans back off the pitch, but not after they intimidated Palace players .
Will those fans be banned and fined as they broke the law or will Frank excuse them.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 20 May 22 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

You obviously donít check.

We have scored 18 more goals than last season with one game to go and conceded 5 less.
Most have enjoyed a more entertaining style of play, you seem to miss the old Royball style.

Right, I've been in a right mood football-wise today so I'll give it a go.

Yes, we actually have. We also have not once flirted with relegation although tbf that could be down to other teams. There's still a lot of deadwood PV could do nothing about this season but the football is far better. We are missing a bit of b****cks at times like exhibited yesterday but that may yet improve. Semi-final of the FA cup, despite position I see us as bottom of the mid-table spectrum atm as opposed to top of the relegation candidates section which is crucial for me.

If I am absolutely honest, I feared the worst this season but am pleasantly surprised. I retain the right to fume over Everton for a while but hey, it's football. COYP

 


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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 20 May 22 1.46pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We don't need players like that.

None of the top players and indeed better teams are frightened or put off by hostile crowds.


During the first pitch invasion Eze was backing away from two approaching idiots, one waving a flare towards his face. Maybe Roy Keane in his heyday might have given some back, but neither Eze nor any player should have to put up with that behaviour. And no one was arrested or even thrown out that i could see.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 May 22 1.55pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Everton have undoubtedly stayed up not only by their football but by their home record of intimidating behaviour often stoked up by Lampard himself.

Goodison has been on the edge with crowd intimidation always likely to spill over and it has been deliberate.

There should be an inquiry into this pitch invasion and the others preceding it during the run-in.

 

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View redshift's Profile redshift Flag Toronto 20 May 22 2.24pm Send a Private Message to redshift Add redshift as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Everton have undoubtedly stayed up not only by their football but by their home record of intimidating behaviour often stoked up by Lampard himself.

Goodison has been on the edge with crowd intimidation always likely to spill over and it has been deliberate.

There should be an inquiry into this pitch invasion and the others preceding it during the run-in.

I agree but you know the only outcome from this is likely going to be PV being charged with something, mainly for his two sins of being a)black and b)French. This is like the Ujiri case in LA after the Raptors won.
The FA will probably do nothing to penalise Everton and the situation will only get worse until someone really gets hurt.
That idiot Lampard said pitch invasions are ok as long as fans are well behaved. Yes, you always get a well behaved mob, fueled up on alcohol and adrenaline.
If the FA take this seriously they will penalise Everton for their non-response, like having to play 10 or so coming home games in an empty stadium. No gate receipts for a while might actually make them sit up and take notice.
The 7,500 clubs have been fined before is more like a licence fee to behave badly which costs the club nothing really.

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 20 May 22 2.34pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by daven

Just supposing our players said that they felt threatened after the first pitch invasion and walked off the pitch. What would have been the outcome.
I believe that our players would have been affected by the pitch invasion and could possibly have equalised.
If Everton stay up only because of that result then could Burnley or Leeds have a case for complaint.
Yes they got the fans back off the pitch, but not after they intimidated Palace players .
Will those fans be banned and fined as they broke the law or will Frank excuse them.

I actually saw a Twitter post from a muppet stating that they had cause to complain 'cos Palace threw the game in the 2nd half to let Everton win........

Some mothers do 'ave 'em!

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 20 May 22 3.33pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

We always look more physical and more competitive in the air when Ward and Kouyate are involved.
Everton exploited our lack of physicality in the second half and those two players could have helped.
However, Clyne has done nothing to warrant being left out for Ward, and in fairness we dominated the first half through our football so the selection worked in the first half.
Perhaps we just have to accept the way we are attempting to play there will be occasions where simple direct and robust play will win the day for our opponents.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 May 22 3.47pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

You're not the only one.

IMO the only thing fishy is the difference in the reffing between the 2 halves. 2nd half we got nothing.
Someone has suggested ref got it wrong with Ayew challenge, what DCL challenge on Clyne, no difference whatsoever.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 May 22 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by daven

Just supposing our players said that they felt threatened after the first pitch invasion and walked off the pitch. What would have been the outcome.
I believe that our players would have been affected by the pitch invasion and could possibly have equalised.
If Everton stay up only because of that result then could Burnley or Leeds have a case for complaint.
Yes they got the fans back off the pitch, but not after they intimidated Palace players .
Will those fans be banned and fined as they broke the law or will Frank excuse them.

No No and Yes

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 May 22 3.50pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Right, I've been in a right mood football-wise today so I'll give it a go.

Yes, we actually have. We also have not once flirted with relegation although tbf that could be down to other teams. There's still a lot of deadwood PV could do nothing about this season but the football is far better. We are missing a bit of b****cks at times like exhibited yesterday but that may yet improve. Semi-final of the FA cup, despite position I see us as bottom of the mid-table spectrum atm as opposed to top of the relegation candidates section which is crucial for me.

If I am absolutely honest, I feared the worst this season but am pleasantly surprised. I retain the right to fume over Everton for a while but hey, it's football. COYP

Agree 100%

 

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