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Originally posted by doombear


Sprites (and possibly Fatherken) love Benteke so much that Mateta has to be viewed as useless because he's keeping their beloved Tekkers out of the team

Got it in one

 


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If I were a current striker, I'd be pretty pissed if Benteke was picked over me. I was wondering how bad …douard must be? I'm pretty sure Benteke's leaving anyway.
Luka - leaving - ok plus a fee, bonus.
Get a fee for Benteke - bonus.
Will almost pay for a midfielder and free up wages. Personally, Don't want to lose Kouyate - has some good games and is versatile.
Our squad is good - we're getting a goalie - we needed that. Get a fee for Butland too - useful.
I'm hoping we can afford maybe one or two additions - presumably midfield most pressing.
Can imagine the Chelsea lad on loan at the back.
Maybe Ferguson will play - who knows?
There are rumours of a left back playing in France. But we have the young lad too - he's looked fine.

What I can't see is any decent striker coming but there's often something left field from Palace so fingers crossed.

Overall, one of our best first elevens but we will have to see how we do without Gallagher. He fitted in so well - who will step up? Plus, up front we have to make do.
Maybe a youngster will make a mark this season? Again, hard to know. I've been impressed with Street when I've seen him. Plays like an old fashioned 9. But, as has been shown numerous times, what would I know?
I suppose I want to say something like:

Goalies: average.

Central Defence - good/ very good Full backs - average to good.

Central midfield - average - needs additions.
Wingers/Inside Forwards - good.

Strikers - below average/ fair - needs improvement.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 09 Jun 22 5.30pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Centre mid, as is, is very weak unless Macca really rolls back the years. If we upgrade centre mid like we did in central defence, though, and if we have the same fortune with injuries, we'd have a fantastic season.

I think we are sure to sustain more injuries, surely?

 


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Originally posted by doombear


Sprites (and possibly Fatherken) love Benteke so much that Mateta has to be viewed as useless because he's keeping their beloved Tekkers out of the team

Not the case at all, actually. I just genuinely don't believe Mateta has the quality required for a premier league striker. Can you honestly tell me you do?

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 09 Jun 22 10.16pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Got it in one

You're cool bro.

 

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The main thing is getting rid of Luka, Jairo, Benteke and possibly Kouyate, Saving over 300k a week, then make sure our key players, Guehi, Olise and Eze get new watertight contracts.

 


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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 10 Jun 22 9.38am Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

Benteke won't go , not only as he is [ in my view ] good player but still , I think , has a year on his contract .
I don't know how or why but when Kouyate plays we { again in my view ] seem to play better .
Jairo I have never warmed to him .
Luka has been a great servant to the club I will be sorry to see him leave but I think his time is up .
I don't understand this obsession with our latest sick note Ferguson will he ever be fit ?
We need a couple of new players or some coming form our academy side .

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 10 Jun 22 9.53am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Vieira said a couple of months ago that he felt Kouyate had a few more seasons left in him.
He attributed this to his body shape, fitness levels and attitude.
It sounded as if he wants him to stay.
He seems to be a popular member of the squad, rarely gets injured and can play in midfield, a back four or back three.
If the dispute relates to offering one instead of two years it would seem to be a case of cutting off oneís nose to spite oneís face if we let him leave.
I hope he stays because his strengths far outweigh his weaknesses even if heís not a guaranteed starter.
If Doucoure joins it may be that he could be a replacement for Luka.
It doesnít appear that Gallagher is coming back and ,while he was excellent for us , this may be no bad thing is that he could have hindered Ezeís reintegration into the team if he was to be signed again.
Mcarthur has signed another contract and apparently Schlupp has been offered an extension so itís likely that they will continue to be midfield options.
Itís gone quiet on Nketiah and also on Zaha who has only one year remaining on his contract.
No doubt this will have a bearing on what we do in the forward positions once the position is clearer.
Overall, and with the four players who have recently re-signed, the squad is in decent shape.
Kelly has left and if Luka and Benteke depart too, we should have flexibility for a few more additions.

 

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Originally posted by Fatherken

Benteke won't go , not only as he is [ in my view ] good player but still , I think , has a year on his contract .
I don't know how or why but when Kouyate plays we { again in my view ] seem to play better .
Jairo I have never warmed to him .
Luka has been a great servant to the club I will be sorry to see him leave but I think his time is up .
I don't understand this obsession with our latest sick note Ferguson will he ever be fit ?
We need a couple of new players or some coming form our academy side .

Benteke isn't going to play next season, so that is another 6m wasted, and he isn't in the Belgium squad anymore, give him 3m to cancel his contract, we save 3m, and he can find a club where he can play for half his wages, win/win situation

 


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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 10 Jun 22 10.25am Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

Lanzo it seem you have pure hatred for this player I wonder when he leaves who you will turn onto next

 

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Originally posted by Fatherken

Lanzo it seem you have pure hatred for this player I wonder when he leaves who you will turn onto next

I dont hate him, he is just the worst 65m we have ever spent, and i begrudge him every penny he takes from our club with his appalling attitude.

 


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Originally posted by sprites

Not the case at all, actually. I just genuinely don't believe Mateta has the quality required for a premier league striker. Can you honestly tell me you do?


Basically, yes I do.
Let's consider his qualities as I see them (matter of opinion of course):
1) His pressing and movement cause the opposition CBs problems and creates space for other players.
2) He regularly makes timely runs into the box to be where the ball will be when delivered. Yes often, a defender will get there first or challenge him sufficiently to cause his shot to be saved or diverted wide, but he gets there time and time again. With more practice he'll start getting there first or get a shot away before the defender can get to him.
3) He can score ugly goals (think Wolves away).
4) He is good with his head
He is improving all the time and IMO shows that he has what it takes to succeed in the PL as a striker. The next two seasons will determine whether he proves that to be the case.

Also, when compared to the rest of our strike force last season, his minutes per goal is only bettered by Zaha and if you exclude Zaha's penalties and focus just on goals in open play/other set pieces, it is the best.

Finally, if we look at central strikers in the other PL teams (excluding the Big Six because we don't have their kind of money to splash out on strikers) the only three central strikers that would interest me from the the rest are Vardy (who won't go on much longer), Watkins who is too expensive, and Toney who we were stupid not to pick up when we had the chance when he was playing for Peterborough.

Edited by doombear (10 Jun 2022 1.42pm)

 

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