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Elpis In a pub 01 Dec 23 9.33am
Originally posted by BrentisBack The main stand is just the start of the revamp. I’m sure we would see incremental capacity increases up to around the 40k mark if we can stay in the PL for another ten or so uears and beyond. Which takes us up to 10th assuming other clubs don't also increase. We are a mid table club in every and any aspect you look at And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 01 Dec 23 9.33am

Originally posted by BrentisBack

The main stand is just the start of the revamp. I’m sure we would see incremental capacity increases up to around the 40k mark if we can stay in the PL for another ten or so uears and beyond.

Which takes us up to 10th assuming other clubs don't also increase.
We are a mid table club in every and any aspect you look at

And we still need a striker

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Painter Croydon 01 Dec 23 9.44am
Originally posted by Elpis The stadium is the big problem ,even the proposed upgrades which some including myself have doubts over (they would have done it by now if they could) will only get us to 30,000 ,thats 14th highest in the PL a mid table side which is where we are anyway .In truth we are punching above our weight as it is ,the improvements on the ground ,the academy(Sheffield utd , Luton and Bournmouth are the only prem teams without cat 1 acadamies)just get us to where we should be . Improvements take time, the balance of staying in the Premier, building a new stand and Academy investment and a lot of money. The current board have these ambitions and it’s not easy. The board and Parish get a lot of stick for what looks to be a business plan of improvement. All previous boards have struggled to make things happen and 2 took us to the brink of extinction. We haven’t had proper investment in the infrastructure of the club for years, there is a lot of catching up to do.
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Painter

Croydon 01 Dec 23 9.44am

Originally posted by Elpis

The stadium is the big problem ,even the proposed upgrades which some including myself have doubts over (they would have done it by now if they could) will only get us to 30,000 ,thats 14th highest in the PL a mid table side which is where we are anyway .In truth we are punching above our weight as it is ,the improvements on the ground ,the academy(Sheffield utd , Luton and Bournmouth are the only prem teams without cat 1 acadamies)just get us to where we should be .

Improvements take time, the balance of staying in the Premier, building a new stand and Academy investment and a lot of money. The current board have these ambitions and it’s not easy.
The board and Parish get a lot of stick for what looks to be a business plan of improvement. All previous boards have struggled to make things happen and 2 took us to the brink of extinction. We haven’t had proper investment in the infrastructure of the club for years, there is a lot of catching up to do.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Dec 23 9.49am
Originally posted by Painter Improvements take time, the balance of staying in the Premier, building a new stand and Academy investment and a lot of money. The current board have these ambitions and it’s not easy. The board and Parish get a lot of stick for what looks to be a business plan of improvement. All previous boards have struggled to make things happen and 2 took us to the brink of extinction. We haven’t had proper investment in the infrastructure of the club for years, there is a lot of catching up to do. Precisely. Edited by Willo (01 Dec 2023 9.49am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Dec 23 9.49am

Originally posted by Painter

Improvements take time, the balance of staying in the Premier, building a new stand and Academy investment and a lot of money. The current board have these ambitions and it’s not easy.
The board and Parish get a lot of stick for what looks to be a business plan of improvement. All previous boards have struggled to make things happen and 2 took us to the brink of extinction. We haven’t had proper investment in the infrastructure of the club for years, there is a lot of catching up to do.

Precisely.

Edited by Willo (01 Dec 2023 9.49am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Dec 23 10.26am
I just saw this. [Link] Botafogo had been the jewel in Textor's crown but it's all going Pete Tong. If Textor has any sense he will let Parish get on with running our club whilst he tries to sort out the mess at Lyon. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 01 Dec 23 10.26am

I just saw this.

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Botafogo had been the jewel in Textor's crown but it's all going Pete Tong.

If Textor has any sense he will let Parish get on with running our club whilst he tries to sort out the mess at Lyon.

One more point

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Dec 23 10.29am
Originally posted by Elpis Which takes us up to 10th assuming other clubs don't also increase. We are a mid table club in every and any aspect you look at You're missing some obvious details. The value of the club. Everything being done is increasing its value. They're businessmen. No need for suspicion that we can't go higher than 10th, and actually, we are always a few bad scenarios away from relegation. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 01 Dec 23 10.29am

Originally posted by Elpis

Which takes us up to 10th assuming other clubs don't also increase.
We are a mid table club in every and any aspect you look at

You're missing some obvious details. The value of the club. Everything being done is increasing its value. They're businessmen. No need for suspicion that we can't go higher than 10th, and actually, we are always a few bad scenarios away from relegation.

COYP

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Elpis In a pub 01 Dec 23 1.40pm
Originally posted by Painter Improvements take time, the balance of staying in the Premier, building a new stand and Academy investment and a lot of money. The current board have these ambitions and it’s not easy. The board and Parish get a lot of stick for what looks to be a business plan of improvement. All previous boards have struggled to make things happen and 2 took us to the brink of extinction. We haven’t had proper investment in the infrastructure of the club for years, there is a lot of catching up to do. Im not knocking it Painter I'm just not buying the suggestion that increasing the capacity and sticking in a few more corporate boxes will improve anything on the pitch. And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 01 Dec 23 1.40pm

Originally posted by Painter

Im not knocking it Painter I'm just not buying the suggestion that increasing the capacity and sticking in a few more corporate boxes will improve anything on the pitch.

And we still need a striker

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Elpis In a pub 01 Dec 23 1.56pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman You're missing some obvious details. The value of the club. Everything being done is increasing its value. They're businessmen. No need for suspicion that we can't go higher than 10th, and actually, we are always a few bad scenarios away from relegation. We can go higher , of course we can its a sport .The right team at the right time and who knows where we would end up . The infrastructure of the club will always be mid table though and thats with the improvements . I get what your saying though it remains to be seen if increasing the value will result in more value to the squad or more value to the shareholders And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 01 Dec 23 1.56pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We can go higher , of course we can its a sport .The right team at the right time and who knows where we would end up . The infrastructure of the club will always be mid table though and thats with the improvements .
I get what your saying though it remains to be seen if increasing the value will result in more value to the squad or more value to the shareholders

And we still need a striker

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est1905 01 Dec 23 5.17pm
Originally posted by Painter Improvements take time, the balance of staying in the Premier, building a new stand and Academy investment and a lot of money. The current board have these ambitions and it’s not easy. The board and Parish get a lot of stick for what looks to be a business plan of improvement. All previous boards have struggled to make things happen and 2 took us to the brink of extinction. We haven’t had proper investment in the infrastructure of the club for years, there is a lot of catching up to do. Common sense, I'm impressed!
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est1905

01 Dec 23 5.17pm

Originally posted by Painter

Common sense, I'm impressed!

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est1905 01 Dec 23 5.20pm
Originally posted by Elpis Im not knocking it Painter I'm just not buying the suggestion that increasing the capacity and sticking in a few more corporate boxes will improve anything on the pitch. Of course it will. Boxes at Spurs go for over £10m a season! We cant ask that much for all sorts of reason but you are naive if you think the money Palace could make from a new main stand isn't potentially huge. Being in London (even south of the river) is still a big advantage
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est1905

01 Dec 23 5.20pm

Originally posted by Elpis

Im not knocking it Painter I'm just not buying the suggestion that increasing the capacity and sticking in a few more corporate boxes will improve anything on the pitch.

Of course it will. Boxes at Spurs go for over £10m a season! We cant ask that much for all sorts of reason but you are naive if you think the money Palace could make from a new main stand isn't potentially huge. Being in London (even south of the river) is still a big advantage

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Dec 23 6.24pm
Originally posted by Elpis We can go higher , of course we can its a sport .The right team at the right time and who knows where we would end up . The infrastructure of the club will always be mid table though and thats with the improvements . I get what your saying though it remains to be seen if increasing the value will result in more value to the squad or more value to the shareholders Ideally both, but most likely shareholders. That's their aim after all. And I think answers the issue. Also, have spurs improved? No. Are they worth more? Yes COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 01 Dec 23 6.24pm

Originally posted by Elpis

Ideally both, but most likely shareholders. That's their aim after all. And I think answers the issue.

Also, have spurs improved? No. Are they worth more? Yes

COYP

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Dec 23 7.57pm
Originally posted by est1905 Of course it will. Boxes at Spurs go for over £10m a season! We cant ask that much for all sorts of reason but you are naive if you think the money Palace could make from a new main stand isn't potentially huge. Being in London (even south of the river) is still a big advantage Elpis didn't say that, he said "improving things on the pitch" I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Dec 23 7.57pm

Originally posted by est1905

Elpis didn't say that, he said "improving things on the pitch"

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Plaistow Eagle 01 Dec 23 8.17pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I just saw this. [Link] Botafogo had been the jewel in Textor's crown but it's all going Pete Tong. If Textor has any sense he will let Parish get on with running our club whilst he tries to sort out the mess at Lyon. Said before Textor reminds me of Allen Stanford..!! Someone described it beautifully once as the "The emperors new clothes" - very apt..!! COYP
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01 Dec 23 8.17pm

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Originally posted by Badger11

I just saw this.

[Link]

Botafogo had been the jewel in Textor's crown but it's all going Pete Tong.

If Textor has any sense he will let Parish get on with running our club whilst he tries to sort out the mess at Lyon.

Said before Textor reminds me of Allen Stanford..!!

Someone described it beautifully once as the "The emperors new clothes" - very apt..!!

COYP

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