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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 18 Jul 22 12.41pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

The train unions are an interesting one as I do know a few train drivers locally. The unions do not just cover drivers - who are paid well (but driving a high speed train full of people is probably a responsible job- but the unions also support the station staff and everyone else who are not paid brilliantly and probably get a whole ahedload of abuse.

Do they deserve a pay rise? Well everyone does at the moment.

Are pensions better? At the moment yes but equally pay is in a lot of cases less and there are no big annual bonuses so it's a trade off.

In my job I could earn a lot more outside but I have been happy to forgo that as I believe we need good public servants and I have some work/life balance despite long hours

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jul 22 12.47pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by beak

I have to ask are you Victor Meldrew,your posts read like one of his hissy fits! Of course Victor's problem is far too much time and a strong desire to stick his beak into everyone else's business.

I don't believe it

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 18 Jul 22 12.55pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by beak

I have to ask are you Victor Meldrew,your posts read like one of his hissy fits! Of course Victor's problem is far too much time and a strong desire to stick his beak into everyone else's business.

Ha ha Iím not the one moaning about hot weather.
Tbh Iím working on a boiler the size of the average family car atm. Maybe Iím just used to it. Too much time on my hands it definitely is not. Just a realist who doesnít like the winging moaning taking society we are becoming but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion and I accept yours with no issues. Is there a reason you are called beak as itís ironic considering your post

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 18 Jul 22 1.28pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Ha ha Iím not the one moaning about hot weather.
Tbh Iím working on a boiler the size of the average family car atm. Maybe Iím just used to it. Too much time on my hands it definitely is not. Just a realist who doesnít like the winging moaning taking society we are becoming but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion and I accept yours with no issues. Is there a reason you are called beak as itís ironic considering your post

I've been trying hard to work "beak" into a post for a long time,thanks for the opportunity.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 18 Jul 22 1.36pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by beak

Their stance of 25 degrees centigrade is a first pitch negotiating bid.Remember GMB workers do physically demanding jobs and the heat affects you more.I'm (unlike you) not medically qualified to state a safe/dangerous temperature in which you can soldier on. I will leave it to the medical experts to advise on this but feel a maximum temperature for work outside should be established.My son is office based and it is already agreed that he will not go to work over the next two days,he just touches buttons!

If your office is air conditioned it makes little sense not to go to work.

I would wager that most people in the UK don't have air con throughout their homes. It will actually be far less comfortable and productive to stay at home for the next two days if you work in a modern office.

I'm in. No way I'm staying at home in 35C heat. Hardly productive.

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 19 Jul 22 8.23am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

If as many suggest, public servants and union members do indeed sit at home all day getting paid for no work, then why are you not all signing up for these so called cushy numbers?

I am a civil servant and a trade union official myself and yes do indeed do a mixture of office and home working but sadly the myth of nothing to do means I tend to work for about 50 hours a week and only get paid to 37.

If, as every public sector trade union representative maintains, private sector pay and conditions are so much better than they are for public servants, then why are public sector workers not all signing up for THOSE so-called cushy numbers? There are plenty of vacancies.

 


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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 19 Jul 22 9.00am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

If, as every public sector trade union representative maintains, private sector pay and conditions are so much better than they are for public servants, then why are public sector workers not all signing up for THOSE so-called cushy numbers? There are plenty of vacancies.

Simple because some people do still believe in the importance of a strong public sector and see a value in working there. As well as a public service ethos I stayed because I saw it as giving me a better work life balance, better job security and a decent pension.

I was able to work flexibly and see my kids grow up with me as, a part of that. I know many former colleagues who left public service for the money and the bonuses who now say that loss of work life balance is the one thing they missed. To me it was priceless.

 

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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 19 Jul 22 9.04am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

If your office is air conditioned it makes little sense not to go to work.

I would wager that most people in the UK don't have air con throughout their homes. It will actually be far less comfortable and productive to stay at home for the next two days if you work in a modern office.

I'm in. No way I'm staying at home in 35C heat. Hardly productive.

For many maybe the problem maybe just getting in/out of the office as commuter travel seems to be suffering with slower services and issues on the road.

I agree the office is probably cooler but I would not be confident today in a network of services to get me there and back again.

 

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 19 Jul 22 9.18am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

I worked from yesterday and I just sat in the garden wiggling my laptop mouse every so often

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Jul 22 9.21am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

I worked from yesterday and I just sat in the garden wiggling my laptop mouse every so often

That's a bit silly. If you just find a really long YouTube video play that and it will stop screen from turning off so you can keep an eye on anything new incoming. You know, not that I've ever done that but believe it works

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 19 Jul 22 11.35am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

That's a bit silly. If you just find a really long YouTube video play that and it will stop screen from turning off so you can keep an eye on anything new incoming. You know, not that I've ever done that but believe it works

Its this Microsoft teams app! it keeps setting me to "Away" Have googled everything to try get around it!

I now just call my mobile phone, answer it and hold onto it so it shows I am "in a call"

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 19 Jul 22 11.48am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Simple because some people do still believe in the importance of a strong public sector and see a value in working there. As well as a public service ethos I stayed because I saw it as giving me a better work life balance, better job security and a decent pension.

I was able to work flexibly and see my kids grow up with me as, a part of that. I know many former colleagues who left public service for the money and the bonuses who now say that loss of work life balance is the one thing they missed. To me it was priceless.

You really believe we work to better the country. We work because we need money. If you work because you need something to do then fair play but to get there you would have originally worked for money. Public sector is easy, lots of sick and virtually no chance of the sack and a good pension. People cannot moan about pay when they know that better money is out there. Public sector are just about to get a decent pay rise. I got 2% and probably will again if Iím lucky but I need to work in the private sector as the money is what I need. State workers generate no profit for hmg. Not their fault but it is a fact.

 

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