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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent/Made in Bromley 13 Aug 22 8.45am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by lush1076

The bit that made me sad was when the 11/12 year olds started talking about money.

I think even way back when it was still part of the dream of being a professional footballer though. I remember when I was that age waiting for my hero Billy Gilbert to turn up outside the ground, heíd roll up in a flash Jag at the age of 19/20 and I yearned for that sort of money. I know they didnít earn a fraction of what players get now, but it was still a lot more than the average Joe on the street.

Plus at a very young age, you do realise itíll be a whole lot better than working for a living

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Aug 22 9.08am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by lush1076

The bit that made me sad was when the 11/12 year olds started talking about money.

It has to be part of the narrative however surely? Iíd also be inclined to believe this is something/conversations the parents may indulge in too.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 13 Aug 22 2.58pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by lush1076

The bit that made me sad was when the 11/12 year olds started talking about money.

But you had to love the one who said he wanted to earn a 6-figure salary, and when the interviewer asked if he wanted to buy a big car with his first wage packet he said, no, that would be with his second one. His first one would buy his Mum and family a new house...... bless

 


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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 14 Aug 22 9.28am Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Very interesting programme. It's inevitable but it's a lot of pressure on kids that young.
A bit ironic hearing Wilf talking about the importance of discipline.
There's a similar 4 parter on Sky called One Shot about older boys who aren't in the academy system.

My thought too. Wilf straight faced saying how important discipline is !

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 14 Aug 22 10.42am Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

I don't think Wilf was talking about discipline or petulance on the field of play.
I believe he meant the shear application, dedication and discipline required to stay the distance and actually become a professional footballer these days.
These young boys eat, sleep and dream of becoming footballers but through the academies nice frontage behind it there is the ever constant ruthless relentless individual analysis.
Also as these boys grow older they then get exposed to the same ruinous temptations as nearly all of us, drink, women and women and drink and for some drugs!

 

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View highbury eagle's Profile highbury eagle Flag Islington 15 Aug 22 1.32pm Send a Private Message to highbury eagle Add highbury eagle as a friend

They've worked really hard to build connections with a load of schools. Whitgift amongst them.

Originally posted by Spiderman

Also do Palace not send some older kids to Whitgift

 


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I watched the 1st episode last night.

I though the Palace staff were really great with the players, especially with them being so young.

Can't say I was too impressed on the emphasis some of the boys put on how much money they could earn. But then again they are just kids.

Whilst it must be great for them being at Palace, the realism is that only a very small percentage will make it, if any at all. Hopefully they are told that not making it Palace is not the end of the road, and by dropping down levels you can make your way up again.

It appeared that some would not know what to do if they failed to make it.

 

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View soulboy's Profile soulboy Flag Lewisham 16 Aug 22 10.47am Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Thanks for the link, very enlightening. I particularly liked "Sometimes parents may receive financial help from the club for travel and schooling. Youth academies may also offer discreet incentives to keep players happy"


Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This has some information. There is some money involved.

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Edited by soulboy (16 Aug 2022 10.47am)

 


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View Isley46's Profile Isley46 Flag Sanderstead 16 Aug 22 10.50am Send a Private Message to Isley46 Add Isley46 as a friend

Originally posted by highbury eagle

They continue at school as normal all the way through their secondary education. It's only post 16 when they commit to daily training.

And even then when they sign a scholarship they must do a BTEC in Sporting Excellence and Performance (usually 1 1/2 days study our of each week). From memory there are three levels, Extended Certificate, Diploma and Extended Diploma. - the highest level gives them enough UCAS points to enter University. 'A' levels are also an option if GCSE Grades are high enough in the chosen subject although must be done with the BTEC at the same time. Successful completion of the BTEC/ and 'A' level will also give preferential access to the USA university scholarship system (so no uni fees) or Loughborough if they don't want to or are not offered a pro contract.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 22 9.52am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Academy ' by becky

Anyone else watching these C4 documentaries?

If not please do. It should fill every Palace supporter with huge optimism.

This facility and itís staff are a massive asset and a glimpse into a future we have all dreamed of.

Well done Steve!

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Sep 22 9.55am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

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I have not yet due to spousal resistance however will get round to it at some point. I've heard not but positives so far so looking forward to it!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Noz's Profile Noz Flag North Hampshire 08 Sep 22 10.16am Send a Private Message to Noz Add Noz as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Academy ' by becky

I have watched it, and I agree its very impressive.

I especially liked watching Phil Hingston who is one of the coaches there. His demeanour and way of handling precocious talent was really impressive.

One thing which I thought was interesting was that they were selecting various style types to complement the current Teams "possession based football". And they were discounting one young lad who would have fitted with Palace 3 seasons ago but not now.

How can you work out whether an 11 year old is going to fit with the Palace ethos 5 years later. We could be in the Isthmian league by then (or also playing Champions league football with Patrick V still has head coach).

 

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