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9 year old girl shot and killed in Liverpool

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 30 Aug 22 6.53am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

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Current CPS guidance, per this it would be a murder charge

Or, to simplify the issue (Midlands Eagle please note):

Because murder is generally defined in law as an intent to cause serious harm or injury (alone or with others), combined with a death arising from that intention, there are certain circumstances where a death will be treated as murder even if the defendant did not wish to kill the actual victim. This is called "transferred malice", and arises in two common cases:

The defendant intended serious harm to one or more persons, but an unintended other person dies as a result;

Several people share an intent to do serious harm, and the victim dies because of the action of any of those involved (for example, if another person goes "further than expected" or performs an unexpectedly lethal action).

 


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Originally posted by YT

to simplify the issue (Midlands Eagle please note):

Ah, the daily YT jibe again.

I hope that you thanked Owen for providing you with the evidence to have yet another dig at me

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 31 Aug 22 11.26am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Ah, the daily YT jibe again.

I hope that you thanked Owen for providing you with the evidence to have yet another dig at me

I don't have a dog in your fight, I was just curious to see what the current legal in interpretation is.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 31 Aug 22 11.34am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Ah, the daily YT jibe again.

I hope that you thanked Owen for providing you with the evidence to have yet another dig at me

Sorry if you took it as a jibe. I was merely trying to highlight to that you were incorrect in your interpretation about what can't be classed as murder i.e. this particular killing.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! Yesterday 7.06pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

If he was white the likes of the BBC would be pointing that out every five minutes.

Thomas Cashman has been charged with Olivias murder, not sure if he is a whitey, but guess not, as you said, the bbc would have told us if he was!

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole Yesterday 11.02pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

If he is white they would be repeatedly stating that fact.

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! Yesterday 11.40pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

whats the relevance?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England Today 4.55am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

whats the relevance?

1000s of cons get caught with phones and I don’t recall it making the nationals.
Why this con ?
Is the SL killing different to any stabby murder we see every week apart from it bought down the police force into a service that was and is afraid to search and arrest blacks and Asians for other ‘heinous’ crimes!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

Thomas Cashman has been charged with Olivias murder, not sure if he is a whitey, but guess not, as you said, the bbc would have told us if he was!

From West Derby, Merseyside. I suspect he is white but whatever he should receive the death penalty imo

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole Today 9.09am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

1000s of cons get caught with phones and I don’t recall it making the nationals.
Why this con ?
Is the SL killing different to any stabby murder we see every week apart from it bought down the police force into a service that was and is afraid to search and arrest blacks and Asians for other ‘heinous’ crimes!

Stephen Lawrence died 30 years ago. I now challenge you to google his name next week, or the week after ......and see how many new news articles are being written about him.

Many other murders are long forgotten, the victims ( and killers) now all anonymous to Joe Public.

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Stephen Lawrence died 30 years ago. I now challenge you to google his name next week, or the week after ......and see how many new news articles are being written about him.

Many other murders are long forgotten, the victims ( and killers) now all anonymous to Joe Public.

O.T.but that reminds me, haven't heard anything about Madeline McCann this year -no new funding for the investigation following up important NEW evidence/suspects.......sign of the hard financial times maybe?

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham Today 9.36am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

O.T.but that reminds me, haven't heard anything about Madeline McCann this year -no new funding for the investigation following up important NEW evidence/suspects.......sign of the hard financial times maybe?

Agreed.

A couple of years back I heard the funding was due to finish in the spring so I predicted there would be new media reports about a suspect they were just about to arrest and lo and behold come spring that's what happened.

It is a tragedy what happened to that poor girl but the truth is until they find a body there is no critical evidence that can put a suspect away.

Several people have been named as being near the resort but that is like saying a pedophile lives 500 yards from a school in London. The truth is that most people live 500 yards from a school in urban areas it's harder not to. Just because the German police have a pedophile in their sights it doesn't mean he did it or more importantly they can prove it.

The UK police have spent a fortune on this it's time to put it in the cold case file until a body turns up. You have to wonder with no new leads what the officers assigned to the case do all day.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Oct 2022 9.37am)

 


One more point

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