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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 29 Aug 22 12.32pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

If he does go it will be total incompetence from Parish, He should have sorted all this out at the end of last season, and put a deadline of 3 weeks before the deadline, he signs new contact, or is sold, if nothing happened before the deadline Wilf stays and walks if he wants at the end of the season, lets hope he stays and signs an extension.


In reality its always going to be more complicated than that.

At the min, Wilf is still our top player. And on current form, one of the best in the league. We are lucky to have him, as we'd never be able to afford him if he wasn't ours.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Aug 22 12.37pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

If he does go it will be total incompetence from Parish, He should have sorted all this out at the end of last season, and put a deadline of 3 weeks before the deadline, he signs new contact, or is sold, if nothing happened before the deadline Wilf stays and walks if he wants at the end of the season, lets hope he stays and signs an extension.


Really?

I believe we did have deadlines in previous windows. This, though, is our last opportunity to get a reasonable fee for Wilf and I can well understand the club's reluctance to do what you suggest in this particular window.

It is my belief that Wilf's main desire is to play at the top table with a club that's in Europe and has a genuine chance of winning trophies. He's already got oodles of money. What he doesn't have is time. I think he will leave as soon as he can if the right opportunity arises and we'll let him go if the price is right. Is that what I want? No. I'd love a happy Zaha staying with us for the rest of his career, but I simply don't see that happening, however much money he's offered to extend his contract.

 

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View tonymikejoe's Profile tonymikejoe Flag UK 29 Aug 22 12.46pm Send a Private Message to tonymikejoe Add tonymikejoe as a friend

I think it is just a numbers game now.
Sell Zaha this window and get something in return, either a player or a few bob (which will be nowhere near the 100m Parish was rumoured to want a few seasons ago).
Or keep him for a season and let him go for nothing at the end of the campaign.
I don't think Zaha is super-bothered either way, as both work out well for him financially.
So the question to Parish is: 'Do you want the money or the enjoyment of watching Zaha in a Palace shirt for one more season?'
For me, I'd rather keep him and then let him go for nothing, because let's be honest Parish is not giving the transfer fee to us and the value of Zaha to the fans is seeing him in a Palace shirt.

Edited by tonymikejoe (29 Aug 2022 12.47pm)

 

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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 29 Aug 22 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Is this manager incompetence or the player with many difficult choices and potential suitors who are facing their own hard issues. I fear you may oversimplify by viewing only from the clubs angle.

He dumbs everything down to polarised black or white categories.

He's a nobody who just suggested Steve Parish was incompetent.

He's the biggest 'look at me' on here since Willo.

I think it's safe to suggest he has over simplified the situation, in a trademark obnoxious manner.

 

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View Palace in the Blood's Profile Palace in the Blood Flag 29 Aug 22 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Unless we have a realistic 'post Zaha' plan in place and can be certain any replacements are available it will be disastrous if he leaves now.

Agreed, the time is approaching as his contract expires next July, but we need him as our talisman and as his absence on Saturday proves we are not the same team without him.

All the alternatives to replace him (Sarr, Hudson-Odi, Gallagher, etc) don't seem adequate to me.

I partially agree with you. If we allow Zaha to leave the offer has to be our liking or he will stay and we go through this again in January. If we look at the suitors what do they have that would satisfy us?

If its a cash transaction we will need to buy a replacement and Sarr is only player mentioned who would be similar and Watford don't need to sell and we will not offer enough to tempt them. We have loaned out our own like for like replacement so unless they fancy an U21 player on loan or part exchange is a non starter.


If it involves a player moving in both directions
Firstly I don't think we will do a Brighton and take a player on loan unlees a permanent player comes in too.
Secondly the obvious replacements if we go like for like such as Pepe and Hudson-Odoi have already been loaned out.

So we are looking at another player who we want If it is Chelsea Gallagher obviously comes to mind as a permanent possibly with an agreement to loan Broja for rest of season. If it is Arsenal most of the players we would have considered are not surplus to requirements I can see them offering Maitland -Niles but would we consider Eddie Nketiah and/or Reiss Nelson plus some money?

I think Wilf will be with us at end of Window unless Chelsea make us a deal involving the permanent transfer of Gallagher and Loan of Broja with right/obligation to buy

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 29 Aug 22 2.39pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

This is all fan talk.
Question is, what would the chairman, alongside his manager, decide to do if a serious offer came in?
Only the chairman knows if he is prepared to offer Zaha another contract at the end of the season should Zaha still be here. And if Parish is to be consistent, that offer will be a one year contract.
One the other hand, should a good enough offer come in, are we strong enough in depth to assure continued PL football this season without Zaha? One has to plan for the future and what is best for the club, not what is best for Wilfried Zaha.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 29 Aug 22 2.48pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

This is all fan talk.
Question is, what would the chairman, alongside his manager, decide to do if a serious offer came in?
Only the chairman knows if he is prepared to offer Zaha another contract at the end of the season should Zaha still be here. And if Parish is to be consistent, that offer will be a one year contract.
One the other hand, should a good enough offer come in, are we strong enough in depth to assure continued PL football this season without Zaha? One has to plan for the future and what is best for the club, not what is best for Wilfried Zaha.

Exactly, all that matters is best for the club, not Wilf, not Chelsea, Not Parish but CPFC

 



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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Aug 22 3.02pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Really?

I believe we did have deadlines in previous windows. This, though, is our last opportunity to get a reasonable fee for Wilf and I can well understand the club's reluctance to do what you suggest in this particular window.

It is my belief that Wilf's main desire is to play at the top table with a club that's in Europe and has a genuine chance of winning trophies. He's already got oodles of money. What he doesn't have is time. I think he will leave as soon as he can if the right opportunity arises and we'll let him go if the price is right. Is that what I want? No. I'd love a happy Zaha staying with us for the rest of his career, but I simply don't see that happening, however much money he's offered to extend his contract.

I trust Steve Parish to do the right thing by all concerned.

First and foremost is the club. I think SP will sanction Wilf's move if we get a sufficiently attractive offer AND have a replacement player lined up.

I know that SP also wants to be in a position where he won't be standing in the way if Wilf get the opportunity he's been wanting these last few years.

From a footballing perspective, I don't see that Wilf fits into a Tuchel team. Chelsea strike me as efficient rather than exciting.

And it would be a shame to lose him from our current set up in which he has players around him such as Eze and Olise that he could work with to progress our club.

I've got to be honest, Chelsea or West Ham would be the last London clubs I want him to play for.

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Exactly, all that matters is best for the club, not Wilf, not Chelsea, Not Parish but CPFC

Just remember, you have been labelled an obnoxious, look at me nobody since Willo. You will go far . . .

 


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Heres the problem with Zaha leaving this window, with the 20% sell on clause to utd the money on offer would have to be ludicrous for a player in the last yr of his contract to make it worth out while.

Also his Agent would never work again if he wasnt reminding wilf every day that he be owed a loyalty bonus to see out his contract with palace AND that he could command so much more in wages and signing on bonuses as a free agent next summer.

 

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Originally posted by NEILLO

I trust Steve Parish to do the right thing by all concerned.

First and foremost is the club. I think SP will sanction Wilf's move if we get a sufficiently attractive offer AND have a replacement player lined up.

I know that SP also wants to be in a position where he won't be standing in the way if Wilf get the opportunity he's been wanting these last few years.

From a footballing perspective, I don't see that Wilf fits into a Tuchel team. Chelsea strike me as efficient rather than exciting.

And it would be a shame to lose him from our current set up in which he has players around him such as Eze and Olise that he could work with to progress our club.

I've got to be honest, Chelsea or West Ham would be the last London clubs I want him to play for.

Its not about what Zaha wants/deserves etc, it's about what is the best for CPFC that matters. I never understand fans saying we shouldn't stand in his way to play in the Champions league with a bigger club, he tried that and failed, we took him back and enabled him to rebuild his reputation. Why would you want to sell your best player to a richer rival, it doesn't make sense.

 

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Originally posted by deflemonkid

Heres the problem with Zaha leaving this window, with the 20% sell on clause to utd the money on offer would have to be ludicrous for a player in the last yr of his contract to make it worth out while.

Also his Agent would never work again if he wasnt reminding wilf every day that he be owed a loyalty bonus to see out his contract with palace AND that he could command so much more in wages and signing on bonuses as a free agent next summer.

THIS, is a very valid point & well made.

 


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