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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Oct 22 11.40am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Rishi Rich has confirmed he's actually standing. Would've been interesting if he'd said he wasn't interested.
Wish I hadn't seen the meme about Rishi looking like Roland Rat - can't get the image out of my mind.

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 23 Oct 22 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

I think Boris gets the 100 backers required, if he stands.

He is then likely to be PM again.

The party members disliked hugely how Sunak stabbed Boris in the back and were never going to vote him in. On the whole they still love Boris and even then there was significant support for his name to be added to the ballot paper with the first emergence of the ‘Bring Back Boris’ campaign.

As was widely reported at the time any of the other candidates would have won against Sunak in the final vote; Braverman, Mourdant, Badenoch or Truss.

I don’t see that enough will have changed for the party members and Boris will win any head to head vote against Sunak next week.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Oct 22 1.01pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Latest figures :

Sunak 148
Johnson 75
Mordaunt 28

The total represents 70% of the total number of Conservative MPs.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 23 Oct 22 1.08pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Clearly Sunak would be the best choice, but if it goes to the Tory faithful it will be Johnson. Whoever it is they will lose the next general election by a landslide and, if it is Johnson, he probably won't even get to the next general election.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Oct 22 1.41pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Wasn't Truss doing the right think in principle cutting the huge tax hike by Sunak?

But her tax cuts were redundant tory economic make believe, nobody seriously believes in trickle down.

Cutting working people and families taxes generates revenue by creating demand, it is Keynesian, for the tories it is still alms for the poor.

Sunak equals huge tax increases, huge borrowing (he was blamed by Lord King today) and inflation.

He caused much of the problem, the tories must think he has learnt the lesson, or isn't it the truth that he looks tory-like and they are desperate for anyone to stave off an election.


 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Oct 22 2.13pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Clearly Sunak would be the best choice, but if it goes to the Tory faithful it will be Johnson. Whoever it is they will lose the next general election by a landslide and, if it is Johnson, he probably won't even get to the next general election.

I am far from convinced this will be the case.
I have actually being engaged in conversations on this matter with a multitude of supporters and most will be supporting Sunak, however there are 170,000+ members and I haven't polled them all !

Apropos a "Landslide", I am certainly not going to engage in prognostication when an election is over 2 years away - 2 days is a long time in politics !

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Oct 22 3.01pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Sunak equals huge tax increases, huge borrowing (he was blamed by Lord King today) and inflation.

He caused much of the problem, the tories must think he has learnt the lesson, or isn't it the truth that he looks tory-like and they are desperate for anyone to stave off an election.

The economic problems have been caused by keeping the country afloat during a pandemic and the effects of Putin's war in Ukraine.

The chancellor has the option of either finding funding to help out or leaving the populace to fend for themselves and I think that you must have been listening to a different program to me if you think that Lord King blamed Sunak because he didn't

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Oct 22 3.02pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have actually being engaged in conversations on this matter with a multitude of supporters and most will be supporting Sunak, however there are 170,000+ members and I haven't polled them all !

Why not? You've got nothing else to do today

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Oct 22 3.23pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The economic problems have been caused by keeping the country afloat during a pandemic and the effects of Putin's war in Ukraine.

The chancellor has the option of either finding funding to help out or leaving the populace to fend for themselves and I think that you must have been listening to a different program to me if you think that Lord King blamed Sunak because he didn't

Whatever we think of the decisions made for both of those situations I would say that they had the effect of speeding up a crisis that was already on the way.

The level of debt that both governments and corporations, including more importantly banks are in has been a feature for decades now.....what covid and the Ukraine did was just add significantly to an unpayable bill.....with the Ukraine bill mainly being a 'paying for expensive energy' issue for those of us who aren't well to do.

I note that Hunt has changed the energy bill assistance down from two years to six months.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2022 3.33pm)

 


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Rishi Sunak - who as Chancellor oversaw the highest inflation in 40 years, the biggest drop in living standards since 1956, the biggest fall in wages since records began & UK trade performance at its worst level on record wants to “fix our economy”.

He fixed it alright, for himself and his rich banker mates.

I think the huge debt is a millstone round any new man, but the tories have borrowed recklessly they are not the party of sound money.


 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Oct 22 3.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Rishi Sunak - who as Chancellor oversaw the highest inflation in 40 years, the biggest drop in living standards since 1956, the biggest fall in wages since records began & UK trade performance at its worst level on record wants to “fix our economy”.

He fixed it alright, for himself and his rich banker mates.

I think the huge debt is a millstone round any new man, but the tories have borrowed recklessly they are not the party of sound money.

All valid points.

However, we note that on all the financial decisions that affected the national debt levels Labour argued for more and harder measures that would have increased, not lowered debt.

You also would have spent Christmas in another lockdown.

 


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View Eagle Black.'s Profile Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 23 Oct 22 3.48pm Send a Private Message to Eagle Black. Add Eagle Black. as a friend

Not even the Tories can be stupid enough to bring back liar Boris.

As it stands Rishi looks like being the new kid on the block.

 

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