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View Goalpost1's Profile Goalpost1 Flag Worcester Park 03 Oct 22 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Goalpost1 Add Goalpost1 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

So a defender who is caught out of position and nearly gets sent off for a deliberate foul is worth a place in the team of the week. Blimey Harry Maguire is a shoe in for player of the season.

Edited by Badger11 (03 Oct 2022 11.43am)

Really I wonder what Garth Crooks is smoking.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 03 Oct 22 1.52pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by whatton

Garth Crooks has picked Silva for his team of the week, and he says:

I'm inclined to agree that Thiago Siva was lucky to stay on the pitch. The last man in defence rule was designed to stop the cynical foul and yet referee Chris Kavanagh elected to leave the Chelsea defender on the pitch regardless of his deliberate handball. However, when players make a late challenge in a desperate attempt to win the ball but are beaten due to the speed or ingenuity of the opponent, no latitude is often given.

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So he is saying it wasnt a red because it was only Jordan Ayew (as others are saying), and he seems to be condoning this.

No wonder there is big club bias.

I'm not even sure what that means.
"when players[Silva ?] make a late challenge in a desperate attempt to win the ball but are beaten due to the speed or ingenuity of the opponent[Ayew ?], no latitude is often given"

what has Latitude got to do with it? is he saying that the desperate Player should be given leniency because he acted in desperation?

The more and more I watch the incident the more of a nailed on Red it is. Sport is something where cheating should be, and is outlawed. So whether it's by the letter of the law or not, blatant cheating should be punished wherever possible in it's harshest form. And you can't get much More blatant than what Silva did.


Edited by CrazyBadger (03 Oct 2022 1.52pm)

Edited by CrazyBadger (03 Oct 2022 1.53pm)

 


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View Palace BANANA's Profile Palace BANANA Flag Ringmer, Lewes, East Sussex 03 Oct 22 2.38pm Send a Private Message to Palace BANANA Add Palace BANANA as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

Im more pissed off that I was surrounded by Chelsea fans in the Holmesdale lower. [/quote

The same in the Arthur Block U where I was with my son.. heard from a Palace fan in BLock W that Chelsea in there too.. I spoke to some stewards after the game when it was more obvious that these b*stards were in the wrong areas and am I'm so still pissed off that I'm writing to Palace to complain and ask for an explanation.. how and why this happened..

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 03 Oct 22 5.17pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Several posts have mentioned the pressure (on the pitch and via social media) that refs are under from the 'top' clubs & fans, so here's a thought to take the pressure off them over their decisions (right or wrong ones).....

make it a bookable offence for any player other than the Team Captain to approach and remonstrate with the referee during a match.

Might mean several games having to be abandoned because their aren't enough players left on the pitch after a contentious tackle/goal/play, but they'd soon get the hang of it....

 


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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 03 Oct 22 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Several posts have mentioned the pressure (on the pitch and via social media) that refs are under from the 'top' clubs & fans, so here's a thought to take the pressure off them over their decisions (right or wrong ones).....

make it a bookable offence for any player other than the Team Captain to approach and remonstrate with the referee during a match.

Might mean several games having to be abandoned because their aren't enough players left on the pitch after a contentious tackle/goal/play, but they'd soon get the hang of it....

Of course it'd work a treat. It's been needed for feckin years but will it get implemented? Not a snowball's chance in the fires of hell. The FA are too gutless to bring in such a sensible rule.

 


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View eagle@ tn34's Profile eagle@ tn34 Flag hastings 03 Oct 22 6.50pm Send a Private Message to eagle@ tn34 Add eagle@ tn34 as a friend

Edoaurd got a yellow very early on and his first tackle i think. Surely thats got to put the brakes on a player, it wasnt even a yellow card compared to some of the tackles made by chelsea. This is how refs can manipulate the game without it being overtly obvious ( make unwarranted bookings). Also there was that non goal that ayew scored in the city game. because he fouled the goalie. we all know if that was haaland it would have been laud3d as excellent forward play and been applauded by the press.

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Edited by eagle@ tn34 (03 Oct 2022 7.29pm)

 

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View Terry Ven's Profile Terry Ven Flag 04 Oct 22 10.36am Send a Private Message to Terry Ven Add Terry Ven as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

Im more pissed off that I was surrounded by Chelsea fans in the Holmesdale lower.

There was a geezer sitting near me who I see regularly at Selhurst but got very over-excited when CG scored...

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 04 Oct 22 11.37am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Terry Ven

There was a geezer sitting near me who I see regularly at Selhurst but got very over-excited when CG scored...

Maybe he's just into cuckolds?

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag Cashel The arsehole of no-where 04 Oct 22 12.32pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by Terry Ven

There was a geezer sitting near me who I see regularly at Selhurst but got very over-excited when CG scored...

I got very excited also , but not in a good way Lets just say the air was bluer ( if thats a word ) than his shirt . What is it with ex players that want to score against their ex clubs . I remember the last time Murray was at SP for Brighton . He was running around like a f***ing gazelle on steriods. Then didnt celebrate .

 


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Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I'm not even sure what that means.
"when players[Silva ?] make a late challenge in a desperate attempt to win the ball but are beaten due to the speed or ingenuity of the opponent[Ayew ?], no latitude is often given"

what has Latitude got to do with it? is he saying that the desperate Player should be given leniency because he acted in desperation?

The more and more I watch the incident the more of a nailed on Red it is. Sport is something where cheating should be, and is outlawed. So whether it's by the letter of the law or not, blatant cheating should be punished wherever possible in it's harshest form. And you can't get much More blatant than what Silva did.


Edited by CrazyBadger (03 Oct 2022 1.52pm)

Edited by CrazyBadger (03 Oct 2022 1.53pm)

Don't shoot me down here but as a qualified referee I'll give my take on the Silva incident.

Now clearly it was an obvious handball and it was what is known as a DOGSO (Denying a goal or an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity)

When you get taught about this on your course you're told to take into account the Distance to the goal, the Direction the attacker is travelling and the distance of the defenders.

I'll admit this one was a tough one but taking my Palace glasses off and putting my referee glasses on Ayew was to the left hand side of the pitch. His direction of travel was to the left and not towards the goal. His distance from goal was still about 35 yards and there was another defender, apart from Silva level with him or just behind him when the foul occurred.

I think taking all that into consideration I can see why a yellow was given and not a red.

However it was a tight one I'll admit. I hope this explains things a little bit for everyone.

Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (04 Oct 2022 11.48pm)

 


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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Don't shoot me down here but as a qualified referee I'll give my take on the Silva incident.

Now clearly it was an obvious handball and it was what is known as a DOGSO (Denying a goal or an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity)

When you get taught about this on your course you're told to take into account the Distance to the goal, the Direction the attacker is travelling and the distance of the defenders.

I'll admit this one was a tough one but taking my Palace glasses off and putting my referee glasses on Ayew was to the left hand side of the pitch. His direction of travel was to the left and not towards the goal. His distance from goal was still about 35 yards and there was another defender, apart from Silva level with him or just behind him when the foul occurred.

I think taking all that into consideration I can see why a yellow was given and not a red.

However it was a tight one I'll admit. I hope this explains things a little bit for everyone.

Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (04 Oct 2022 11.48pm)

But surely the cynical nature of it HAS to come into it. Or some common sense. Or something. It was filthy. It seems so cruel that a complete accidental handball on a shot that may've been on target would be penalised with a red...but that from Silva gets a yellow.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 05 Oct 22 6.40am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Hi Kenny -
Thanks for the below - Just a question, with your ref glasses on - if the attacker had been Wilf instead of Jordan & fresh in your mind recent goals from very similar positions & situations against Liverpool & Villa would that have altered your assessment of the situation ?

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Don't shoot me down here but as a qualified referee I'll give my take on the Silva incident.

Now clearly it was an obvious handball and it was what is known as a DOGSO (Denying a goal or an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity)

When you get taught about this on your course you're told to take into account the Distance to the goal, the Direction the attacker is travelling and the distance of the defenders.

I'll admit this one was a tough one but taking my Palace glasses off and putting my referee glasses on Ayew was to the left hand side of the pitch. His direction of travel was to the left and not towards the goal. His distance from goal was still about 35 yards and there was another defender, apart from Silva level with him or just behind him when the foul occurred.

I think taking all that into consideration I can see why a yellow was given and not a red.

However it was a tight one I'll admit. I hope this explains things a little bit for everyone.

Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (04 Oct 2022 11.48pm)

 

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