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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Online Flag Hong Kong 18 Oct 22 7.57am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I think rejoining the EU would only start to be a real possibility once Starmer is in and feels he can maintain power without the Red Wall seats who would lose their s*** quite rightly if rejoin becomes a possibility.

I fear that the police will be allowed to continue in wasting time on twitter spats instead of crime.

I expect a significant general increase in legal immigration which would not be based on the country's needs.

Illegal immigration will get even worse with the numbers continuing to increase and the cost becoming even more unbearable.

I suspect a mass amnesty for illegals is likely.

 


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Originally posted by HKOwen

I think rejoining the EU would only start to be a real possibility once Starmer is in and feels he can maintain power without the Red Wall seats who would lose their s*** quite rightly if rejoin becomes a possibility.

I fear that the police will be allowed to continue in wasting time on twitter spats instead of crime.

I expect a significant general increase in legal immigration which would not be based on the country's needs.

Illegal immigration will get even worse with the numbers continuing to increase and the cost becoming even more unbearable.

I suspect a mass amnesty for illegals is likely.

^^ All of this ^^
along with actions / gerrymandering to ensure they will never be out of power again.
A program of building estates on green sites in affluent areas(out of pure spite , like Croydon)

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 18 Oct 22 8.30am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Outside of the rejoining the EU, pretty much the same. If anything, they might even clamp down on immigration and push for the police to actually police.

The entire rejoin strategy will be based around a narrative of recreating stability. They won't rock the boat.

Lets not forget that Starmer threw Corbyn out of Labour. There are left wing candidates being rejected for seats all over the country by Labour.

This is the point of Starmer. Why he has the job.

 


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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 18 Oct 22 9.40am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

I shudder to think what they will do.

I'm currently looking at sitting on my hands next election.

Could not vote for Starmer defo not Truss. The liberals are loonies.

So unless the tories get their act together (unlikely) I will not be voting for the first time in my life.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 Oct 22 9.50am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

I shudder to think what they will do.

I'm currently looking at sitting on my hands next election.

Could not vote for Starmer defo not Truss. The liberals are loonies.

So unless the tories get their act together (unlikely) I will not be voting for the first time in my life.

Welcome to the club!

Both the Tories and Labour lean far more towards a 'populist' vote now as opposed to an ideological one, hence the conservation of very little and the likes of the removal of Corbyn. They really are two sides of the same coin now, it's just about which individuals have the most appeal nowadays... or are the lesser of two evils.

Find it hard to endorse either candidate or party in the current climate. Soon as somebody who seems half competent arises I will give my vote. The only other consideration is to stop anyone you perceive to be an unmitigated disaster should they get into power.

 


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Originally posted by Matov

Outside of the rejoining the EU, pretty much the same. If anything, they might even clamp down on immigration and push for the police to actually police.

The entire rejoin strategy will be based around a narrative of recreating stability. They won't rock the boat.

Lets not forget that Starmer threw Corbyn out of Labour. There are left wing candidates being rejected for seats all over the country by Labour.

This is the point of Starmer. Why he has the job.

What leads you to think they may clamp down on immigration and have the police do their job.

There is no avoiding that the Conservatives have failed abysmally on both, May's stupid legislation put braces on the ECHR belt.

How can the Govt have lost control of the police in such a massive way, no control over training, allowing political actions etc etc

Grooming gangs unchallenged for decades, the criminal drug gangs acting with impunity etc etc, how the fook did the Albanians get a dominant position in crime, candy shops and barbers to launder money, we have been sleep wlaking over the cliff edge

Jaysus, the country really is fooked when you think about it

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Oct 22 11.37am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Labour will be stronger on crime and immigration, tough on crime ad all that.

This is all very subjective.

But we are where we are after 12 years of tory mis-rule.

Labour will not be taking us back into the EU, there is no appetite in the EU for us to re-join, we have a lot to do to restore good relations we can certainly limit the brexit damage particularly over trade.

But re=joining that's unfortunately not a realistic option.

 

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Originally posted by Matov

Outside of the rejoining the EU, pretty much the same. If anything, they might even clamp down on immigration and push for the police to actually police.

The entire rejoin strategy will be based around a narrative of recreating stability. They won't rock the boat.

Lets not forget that Starmer threw Corbyn out of Labour. There are left wing candidates being rejected for seats all over the country by Labour.

This is the point of Starmer. Why he has the job.

The left are the heart of labour and this has consequences, Wilson and Blair had the left on board.

It means that many people with socialist ideals are not welcome in his drive for power.

Th left have an important role to play, remember the post-war reconstruction under Attlee.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 18 Oct 22 11.47am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The left are the heart of labour and this has consequences, Wilson and Blair had the left on board.

It means that many people with socialist ideals are not welcome in his drive for power.

Th left have an important role to play, remember the post-war reconstruction under Attlee.


The Left are wiped out. You had a Left Wing leader. He led Labour to 40% of the vote in 2017. Starmer then f***ed them up with his 'second referendum' policy and they lost although they still got a big % of the vote than Labour in 2015.

Starmer becomes leader and gets rid of Corbyn. If that ain't destroying the Left, then I am not sure what is.

Look into the current Labour selection process for Kensington. Tells you all you need to know about how much sway the Left have in Labour now.

Of course, you define yourself by hating the Tories and will understandably be cheering on their demise but to think Starmer is anything else other than the death knell for the British Left is delusional.

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I couldn't not vote and see Angela Raynor in Government.
She is nuts and will cause mayhem along with many others.
If and when they get in Starmer will be ousted quite quickly - leopards do not change their spots.
If anyone thinks that they will be tough on crime just at the Mayor of London - a useless Labour man in charge of rising crime and doing nothing about it.
I fear for us with any of the current crop of politicians in charge of whichever party.

 

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

I couldn't not vote and see Angela Raynor in Government.
She is nuts and will cause mayhem along with many others.
If and when they get in Starmer will be ousted quite quickly - leopards do not change their spots.
If anyone thinks that they will be tough on crime just at the Mayor of London - a useless Labour man in charge of rising crime and doing nothing about it.
I fear for us with any of the current crop of politicians in charge of whichever party.

'Yup' - William Shakespeare

 


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Originally posted by The Dolphin

I couldn't not vote and see Angela Raynor in Government.
She is nuts and will cause mayhem along with many others.
If and when they get in Starmer will be ousted quite quickly - leopards do not change their spots.
If anyone thinks that they will be tough on crime just at the Mayor of London - a useless Labour man in charge of rising crime and doing nothing about it.
I fear for us with any of the current crop of politicians in charge of whichever party.

Khan hopes crime will improve in London, but doesn't hate it when it gets no better. Khan the King of fingers crossed governence.

 


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