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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 10 Sep 23 7.34pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Thank you for this, tho, if you see it from my side, payments ain't gonna help me walk properly again.

That's not why you posted, sorry. Thank you again.

Of course if I was in your position I would rather be able walk.

Really sorry to hear what you have gone through again.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Sep 23 9.08am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Can i ask the supporters of the jabs, WHY? I have been diagnosed with what they call 'Drop Foot', that means i am unable to walk properly, like i used to, IE: when yo walk, you raise your toes to walk, i cannot. Why?, well, here's the thing, 3 senior consultants have agreed that the 'Booster' jab played a prominent part in my, now disability.

Why did i have all the jabs, simple, the 'experts' said we had to, because having a property in Spain, it was Jabs or nothing. I hope ALL pro-vaxxers are happy, i'm not, i'm now in a wheelchair for the rest of my life. THINK!

I am obviously very sorry to learn of your experience but it seems you have been incredibly unlucky. Whilst side effects exist for the Covid vaccines, as they do for all vaccines, the benefits outweigh them by huge margins. It took me a while to find any evidence that your condition might be the result of such a vaccination but I did find this:-

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2 reported cases! Was yours one of them?

I hope you manage your condition as well as possible, that you continue to enjoy life and don’t become too cynical because of your very unusual bad luck.

I will go on having every booster recommended on the basis that at my age I am much more likely to suffer from another Covid infection by a new variant than I am to suffer the hard luck you have.

 


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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 11 Sep 23 6.03pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Not covid related....but is related to peer-reviewed scientific journals and how it undermines public belief in science by leaving out the truth so that it can be published.

Evidence that to be peer reviewed your research has to have an agenda. I am pretty sure that the same goes for covid related "peer reviewed journals"

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Sep 23 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Not covid related....but is related to peer-reviewed scientific journals and how it undermines public belief in science by leaving out the truth so that it can be published.

Evidence that to be peer reviewed your research has to have an agenda. I am pretty sure that the same goes for covid related "peer reviewed journals"

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This is a serious point which needs to be addressed before it undermines confidence in scientific studies. I can understand why magazines like Nature focus on reports which strengthen the general awareness of the most important issue facing mankind but if it is done in a way which gives oxygen to sceptics then this has the potential to backfire.

The author is not saying that climate change isn’t important or not contributing, only that other issues need also to be kept in the discussion so that the whole can be seen in their context.

 


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Study finds immunity acquired from Covid infection as protective as vaccination.


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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 12 Sep 23 12.50am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Study finds immunity acquired from Covid infection as protective as vaccination.


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Could have told you this 3 years ago but it was "covid conspiracy" at the time or "anti vax" propaganda

 

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This is what happens when people just blindly nod along.

Notice how the media now act like they never did this....complete stooges.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Sep 2023 1.54am)

 


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Originally posted by eaglesdare

Not covid related....but is related to peer-reviewed scientific journals and how it undermines public belief in science by leaving out the truth so that it can be published.

Evidence that to be peer reviewed your research has to have an agenda. I am pretty sure that the same goes for covid related "peer reviewed journals"

[Link]


It's not just science.

Back in the early days of the Blair government my friend who is a professor was invited along with others to a meeting at 10 Downing street to discuss inner city problems especially white children something she is a bit of an expert on.

At the meeting she knew many of the other guests and their opinions as it's a small (academic) world.

Blair's people said they wanted to listen but it became very clear that they had already made up their mind about policy and were just looking for a group of experts to rubber stamp it.

Much to my friend's disgust as they went around the room most of them were falling over themselves to suck up in the hope of getting jobs, funding and prestigious advisory roles even though she knew that they didn't agree with the policy.

She was one of the few who spoke her mind and disagreed, she was never invited back again whilst others prospered.

Of course this is a personal story and it's not about Labour as such. Many so called experts from all areas get sucked into the money and power of government in return for abandoning their principles, human nature of course. It does means the public should always have a healthy skepticism when The Blob says this is the right and only solution.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 12 Sep 23 9.09am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11


It's not just science.

Back in the early days of the Blair government my friend who is a professor was invited along with others to a meeting at 10 Downing street to discuss inner city problems especially white children something she is a bit of an expert on.

At the meeting she knew many of the other guests and their opinions as it's a small (academic) world.

Blair's people said they wanted to listen but it became very clear that they had already made up their mind about policy and were just looking for a group of experts to rubber stamp it.

Much to my friend's disgust as they went around the room most of them were falling over themselves to suck up in the hope of getting jobs, funding and prestigious advisory roles even though she knew that they didn't agree with the policy.

She was one of the few who spoke her mind and disagreed, she was never invited back again whilst others prospered.

Of course this is a personal story and it's not about Labour as such. Many so called experts from all areas get sucked into the money and power of government in return for abandoning their principles, human nature of course. It does means the public should always have a healthy skepticism when The Blob says this is the right and only solution.

Science funding is a really big issue. Whoever provides the funding, sets the Agenda. As a scientist, I have big issues with specific items Sir Chris Whitty gave as guidance. Still, 'Sir' Chris is set for life, whilst unfortunates, such as Eagleman13, carry the long-term consequences. There are a fair few scientists and politicians with blood on their hands....but very healthy bank accounts

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Sep 2023 9.09am)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Sep 23 11.19am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Study finds immunity acquired from Covid infection as protective as vaccination.


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Is this a surprise?

Who though thinks it’s actually better to catch Covid, with all the associated risks, just to gain immunity from severe disease from a subsequent infection? Pretty daft idea that when you can avoid those risks by getting vaccinated.

If you read past the headline that’s exactly what the article says:-

“Still, experts stress that vaccination is the preferable route to immunity, given the risks of Covid, particularly in unvaccinated people.

“The problem of saying ‘I’m gonna get infected to get immunity’ is you might be one of those people that end up in the hospital or die,” Murray said. “Why would you take the risk when you can get immunity through vaccination quite safely?”

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Science funding is a really big issue. Whoever provides the funding, sets the Agenda. As a scientist, I have big issues with specific items Sir Chris Whitty gave as guidance. Still, 'Sir' Chris is set for life, whilst unfortunates, such as Eagleman13, carry the long-term consequences. There are a fair few scientists and politicians with blood on their hands....but very healthy bank accounts

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Sep 2023 9.09am)


That’s very unfair. Extremely rare complications exist in medicine and someone will be unlucky. Do you seriously believe that people like Whitty are dishonourable? All high level people get well rewarded but that doesn’t mean they don’t care.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Is this a surprise?

Who though thinks it’s actually better to catch Covid, with all the associated risks, just to gain immunity from severe disease from a subsequent infection? Pretty daft idea that when you can avoid those risks by getting vaccinated.

If you read past the headline that’s exactly what the article says:-

“Still, experts stress that vaccination is the preferable route to immunity, given the risks of Covid, particularly in unvaccinated people.

“The problem of saying ‘I’m gonna get infected to get immunity’ is you might be one of those people that end up in the hospital or die,” Murray said. “Why would you take the risk when you can get immunity through vaccination quite safely?”

Since the ONS say over 44m people in the country have already had the virus it's also pretty daft to suggest anyone needs to deliberately catch it.

 

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