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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Mar 23 10.59am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Me.

I don't believe it anymore than I dismiss it and that, I think, has been the position of most folk who try to maintain an open mind on something that hasn't been establshed as a fact.

The "conspiracy theories" that were condemned were not that it was a possible leak, but that it was a deliberate leak and the way that it was politicised by Trump. An accidental leak was always a likely, even probable source, but the kickback came when Trump started to use this as an excuse to turn the focus away from him.

We needed China to co-operate and allow the WHO access to determine the cause, take steps to limit the damageand and advise on improvements to avoid any future reoccuence.

They are naturally reticent and secretive anyway but when Trump started his tirade of playing the blame game and suggesting compensation they slammed the door shut. It was not the way to handle a crisis. That was why the kickback happened. To try to keep China onside.

That's the way. China starts a pandemic which closes down the world and kills many thousands and Trump is the villain of the piece.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's the way. China starts a pandemic which closes down the world and kills many thousands and Trump is the villain of the piece.

And is now tipped to become the next POTUS...again.

After the highly predictable total failure of the Biden administration, it's not really a shock.

 

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 15 Mar 23 11.35am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And is now tipped to become the next POTUS...again.

After the highly predictable total failure of the Biden administration, it's not really a shock.

Biden has done everything he can to start WW3. I have also lost count the amount of times sleepy Joe has caught covid even after he gave misinformation by telling everyone that the vaccine stops transmission and he is on his 4th or 5th booster now or someting.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 23 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's the way. China starts a pandemic which closes down the world and kills many thousands and Trump is the villain of the piece.

That's worthy of Trump himself, and you are better than that!

It seems the pandemic started in China, but it is possible it arrived from elsewhere. We simply don't know.

That's different from suggesting that "China starts a pandemic". That suggests an accident or even a deliberate act. Again we don't know.

So suggesting China is the villain, without proof, is neither accurate nor helpful.

Trump on the other hand was a villain. Not for causing a pandemic but for reacting to it politically. He attempted to shift the focus away from his dithering response and tried to find a target to blame.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 23 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And is now tipped to become the next POTUS...again.

After the highly predictable total failure of the Biden administration, it's not really a shock.

Wrong and wrong.

Trump is currently at 3-1. Which I think is optimistic given the numerous indictments he seems likely to face.

Biden is at 2-1. Which suggests people donn't see his administration as a total failure. Not those who vote anyway. Perhaps those on a football website with a right wing outlook do!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Mar 23 5.07pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's worthy of Trump himself, and you are better than that!

It seems the pandemic started in China, but it is possible it arrived from elsewhere. We simply don't know.

That's different from suggesting that "China starts a pandemic". That suggests an accident or even a deliberate act. Again we don't know.

So suggesting China is the villain, without proof, is neither accurate nor helpful.

Trump on the other hand was a villain. Not for causing a pandemic but for reacting to it politically. He attempted to shift the focus away from his dithering response and tried to find a target to blame.

I'm not by any means suggesting it was deliberate but to deny a laboratory specialising in virus research at the epicentre of the pandemic wasn't responsible is stretching credulity beyond reason.
The meaning behind Trump's response is pure speculation.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 23 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I'm not by any means suggesting it was deliberate but to deny a laboratory specialising in virus research at the epicentre of the pandemic wasn't responsible is stretching credulity beyond reason.
The meaning behind Trump's response is pure speculation.

I don't disagree that it is a smoking gun, but as we don't know what happened it's very unwise to draw conclusions. If it was the smoking gun that fired the bullet we don't know who was holding it, who it was aimed at and why. Nor, actually, do we know who made the bullet. Making assumptions in the world of geopolitics is quite possibly what someone wants you to think.

Now I know I am also dabbling in conspiracy theory but in truth that's all anyone has.

The meaning behind Trump's motivation was never really in doubt. He wouldn't admit it, he never does, so we cannot know for sure, but there was no other logical explanation. If he was able to prove it, he would have done.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Mar 23 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't disagree that it is a smoking gun, but as we don't know what happened it's very unwise to draw conclusions. If it was the smoking gun that fired the bullet we don't know who was holding it, who it was aimed at and why. Nor, actually, do we know who made the bullet. Making assumptions in the world of geopolitics is quite possibly what someone wants you to think.

Now I know I am also dabbling in conspiracy theory but in truth that's all anyone has.

The meaning behind Trump's motivation was never really in doubt. He wouldn't admit it, he never does, so we cannot know for sure, but there was no other logical explanation. If he was able to prove it, he would have done.

There were no "bullets" involved, in all probability it was an accident. You cannot be convinced of Trump's motivations without conceding that fact.
If there was an outbreak of chocolate poisoning in Bournville the onus would be on Cadburys to prove their innocence.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 23 11.47pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

There were no "bullets" involved, in all probability it was an accident. You cannot be convinced of Trump's motivations without conceding that fact.
If there was an outbreak of chocolate poisoning in Bournville the onus would be on Cadburys to prove their innocence.

Your analogy at least made me smile!

Unfortunately even Cadburys are innocent until proven guilty. They are also much less likely to be the victims of geopolitics.

Though maybe Nestle have sleeper agents in Bournville. I wouldn't put anything past the Swiss.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Mar 23 11.56pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Your analogy at least made me smile!

Unfortunately even Cadburys are innocent until proven guilty. They are also much less likely to be the victims of geopolitics.

Though maybe Nestle have sleeper agents in Bournville. I wouldn't put anything past the Swiss.

All those cuckoo clocks would affect the mildest of chocolate makers. Nevertheless sometimes the most obvious suspect is guilty. In this case that is the laboratory researching Corona viruses.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Mar 23 12.02am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

All those cuckoo clocks would affect the mildest of chocolate makers. Nevertheless sometimes the most obvious suspect is guilty. In this case that is the laboratory researching Corona viruses.

It's certainly the most obvious explanation. Or is that what someone wants us to think?

We are unlikely to ever know.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Mar 23 12.05am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's certainly the most obvious explanation. Or is that what someone wants us to think?

We are unlikely to ever know.

No. As the saying goes, sometimes Sigmund a cigar is just a cigar.

 

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