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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Dec 22 10.37pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Eating cheaply often means eating rubbish. Look up turkey tails in Samoa. And before you say it, yes, if you are really smart you can eat fantastically well for threepence. Not everyone is as smart as you.

I was very much under the impression that a lot of obesity in children, particularly those who come from the lowest income households, was a result of their shopping predominately coming in from cheap supermarkets (Icelands often cited) where high fat, low nutritional foods were available at lower prices en masse.

Still, do see the irony and somewhat amusing aspect of an overweight individual accessing a foodbank. Be a bit like turning up to a job centre in a saville row tailored suit with a cane.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 14 Dec 22 10.56pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

In Darwin's Jungle, only the best Alpha males will reproduce. Making the next generation strong and competitive.
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In Lefties Jungle, the opposite.

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Dec 22 5.49am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I struggle a bit with why people are so down on a lady like this? Having 5 kids under the age of 30 is what a woman is biologically designed to do. The real freak, historically, is the woman of 30 who has no kids and lives on her own. That is the biggest danger to our society.

If she was married, and her husband could support them, then this lady would be celebrated. She is actually living the life she was designed for. And even if the collective had to help out in terms of subsidising the housing along with other assistance then if these 5 kids are bought up correctly, it's actually a blessing to everybody.

I suspect having 5 kids under the age of 30 is not uncommon in the Amish and is celebrated.

I get the ire aimed at how our welfare state has turned out. But women's fertility is what it is and we live in a West in which far to many women at the age of 30 have NO children. Far more of a long-term danger to all of us.

Edited by Matov (14 Dec 2022 6.31am)

You raise some valid practical points. The UK's birth rate is falling. The only reason the UK population is increasing, (aside from migration) is because we have an aging population burdening society with their pension entitlement. (though, less so after Covid). So whilst what Mat is saying is true, I would caveat it from an investment perspective, in that the kids she is having are a long-term investment which sees no initial benefit to the UK. So the lady and her kids are given State Benefits until they reach working age, then the kids can go to work and be of benefit to society,...but that is close to 20 years away. Perhaps a likely outcome, is the kids education will be affected by poor living conditions (and other influences from being from a poor background) and they will be more likely to be looking for work in the unskilled labour market. A market already saturated by migrants and unemployed. I could be proved wrong, and the kids go on to be engineers and scientists on mega-bucks. but if I were a Dragon looking to invest in a business opportunity like this, it would be "No thanks, I'm out".
Also at this time of year in the current financial climate, we are all having to deal with much harsher living conditions. Whilst we might empathise a bit, her specific situation is largely of her own making.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Dec 22 6.55am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I also conceded that it may just me being 'angry' at the world, or something of that ilk. But if somebody decides to have 5 kids by the age of 30 and feels they are newsworthy in the reporting of their struggles to the world I find it a very bizarre paradigm indeed. Did she not know this would happen? If so did she plan for it? If not why? Did she consider the quality of life of those being brought into the world etc. etc.

We have no idea what the BBC edited out of the interview. I have been interviewed a couple of times by the BBC in the past and on both occasions the final "product" bore little relationship to what was actually discussed and what was broadcast was what the BBC wanted to portray and not what I was trying to put over.

Nothing was mentioned about the number of births as opposed to the number of children and she could have had twins or even triplets. Nothing was mentioned about the number of fathers and why they were not making any contribution but I feel that this was the BBC directing the interview in the direction that they wanted it to take

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Online Flag 15 Dec 22 7.16am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Tbh I don’t really give a s*** what you think of me.
My opinion might not be the same as yours but she is and will constantly be a drain on society. If that sits with you then ok but bear in mind I think the same of one of my own kin. A lazy fat cow who has ponced since she layed down for someone and had a kid.
Then had more; now her and her fella claiming disability with new cars and benefits and all that goes with it. You and me are paying for that yet you come on here moaning about the lack of cash for the nhs and old people and the rest. These type, including this baby machine on this post are partly the cause. Once you get that you might see there is a point to my rant. Forget the language; read the substance at a minimum.

There you go again, assuming you can speak on my behalf about this issue.

I know you don't care what I think about you, of course I know that but the language you use to voice your opinion is just unbearable and, actually, throws a very poor light on yourself: you come across as an ignorant old bigoted moaner.

Oh yeah, you are
an ignorant old bigoted moaner lol.

Happy Christmas.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Dec 22 8.13am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Eating cheaply often means eating rubbish. Look up turkey tails in Samoa. And before you say it, yes, if you are really smart you can eat fantastically well for threepence. Not everyone is as smart as you.

Thanks for the compliment

I actually agree with where you are going with this. Nutrition and cooking healthily needs to be taught at school and also to adults, most of these people probably don't have these skills and it is costing us all long term due to their bad lifestyle choices.

It is a pity that we don't invest now in helping schools and Further Education to provide these courses.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Dec 2022 8.17am)

 


One more point

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View YT's Profile YT Online Flag Oxford 15 Dec 22 8.46am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

In Darwin's Jungle, only the best Alpha males will reproduce. Making the next generation strong and competitive.
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In Lefties Jungle, the opposite.

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For years and years, educated, hard-working people have restricted the number of children they've produced, on grounds of affordability and practical reality. Consequently they tend to produce children who are well-brought-up, who make the most of the education made available to them and who go on to understand the importance of working hard and striving to be successful


On the other hand, feckless people who shun education have been financed by the state to produce unrestricted numbers of children, who will tend themselves to become a drain on the benefits system as they become adults.

Thus we have the opposite to Darwin's theory of evolution. If this continues, the feckless will overwhelm the sensible by a large margin.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Dec 22 8.55am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

In Darwin's Jungle, only the best Alpha males will reproduce. Making the next generation strong and competitive.
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In Lefties Jungle, the opposite.

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The sexual revolution followed by the benefits state ruined all this. At one time women were a bit choosy about their future husband and rightly so as he would be the bread winner. Today women don't have to consider that as a factor because they can always fall back on the state to provide so any good looking "bar steward" will do.

 


One more point

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Dec 22 9.17am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

We have no idea what the BBC edited out of the interview. I have been interviewed a couple of times by the BBC in the past and on both occasions the final "product" bore little relationship to what was actually discussed and what was broadcast was what the BBC wanted to portray and not what I was trying to put over.

Nothing was mentioned about the number of births as opposed to the number of children and she could have had twins or even triplets. Nothing was mentioned about the number of fathers and why they were not making any contribution but I feel that this was the BBC directing the interview in the direction that they wanted it to take

Yep, I fully accept that Midlands. Equally, there could have been a father and a very comfortable economic position. However, you could also propose the opposite of these scenarios, I don't know 5 different fathers and her intent to live as such etc.

The article mentioned that she got abuse/criticism from neighbours on the street. Whilst I would not condone that it does give some indicator as to her situation.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 15 Dec 22 10.25am Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Being self employed for 40 odd years now, I have experienced some extreme swings in financial fortune from bailiffs at the door, parents having to drop off tinned food parcels to owning our house outright, foreign holidays etc.
In fallow times, recently about 6-7 years ago, I easily fed the family on £25 a week & it was not junk.
A large mince shepherds pie would cover 2 or 3 days evening meals, cereal breakfasts, eggs, plus jacket spuds other evenings.
Was a bit dull, but certainly went to bed full & not hungry (it also has made me appreciate better times)

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 15 Dec 22 10.38am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Eating cheaply often means eating rubbish. Look up turkey tails in Samoa. And before you say it, yes, if you are really smart you can eat fantastically well for threepence. Not everyone is as smart as you.

Chicken tails are very popular in Taiwan, available in good supermarkets island wide. They crisp up very nicely, same as turkey tails far from rubbish

Edited by HKOwen (15 Dec 2022 10.39am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Dec 22 11.35am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

The article mentioned that she got abuse/criticism from neighbours on the street. Whilst I would not condone that it does give some indicator as to her situation.

Or that her neighbours are R Soles

In general I am as anti single mothers sponging off the state as you are but something about this particular case doesn't sit right with me as it feels like BBC selective editing to make up a story.

You may recall that I posted earlier on in this thread that I felt that absentee fathers should pay for the upkeep of their children and not the state which curiously didn't merit one single response

 

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