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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 27 Dec 22 12.52am Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by jabber

Viera is not good enough how does he play ayew every game he is going to cost him his job worst number9 in the league

Ayew hasn't been good enough for a minimum of 2 seasons now.. Neither has Ward yet these players start regularly.. The best defence that the Ayew supporters come up with on here is 'he wins a few free kicks every game'

Ayew and Ward wouldn't start in any other team in this league and I genuinely believe that's a fact.. Look at our bench today.. So weak and not a single player on it who makes us better or makes an impact... We've gone backwards since last season without a doubt.

 


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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 27 Dec 22 5.14am Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Not easy supporting Palace. I can't remember when it ever was!

Every match these days is more important than the last.

Let's hope our team were completely out of sorts today with a cold or something minor. Or will Bournemouth reveal it's something more serious and chronic?

I also hope that PV is recognising the same issues as most on here are. I do fear he is too close - wood for the trees and all that.

Another effort like that and TBH I can't see us beating anyone.

 


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CT Charlie Flag 27 Dec 22 6.46am Send a Private Message to CT Charlie Add CT Charlie as a friend

1) Aside from Doucouré, who on the roster is currently a Premier League calibre starting midfielder? OF COURSE we're going to look terrible.

2) When inspired, Olisé and Ebz create create problems and good chances. Defensively, their default approach is to observe. Assuming they won't miraculously morph into Conor Gallagher, PV needs to remind them that we won't score if we don't have possession of the ball. PRESS! Work!! It's worth the effort!!!

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Dec 22 8.32am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Absolutely yes!

Is this agreeing with him, or Vieira out?

 

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The Dolphin Flag 27 Dec 22 8.48am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I have slept on it but it doesn't get any better.
As soon as I saw the team sheet with no centre forward I knew it would be a long afternoon - dreadful error by the Manager when playing at home.
Fulham were on it from the off while we were slow and looked tired.
Tomkins had a half to forget and given that we were down to 10 men by half time he should have been subbed because he was one mistake away from a sending off and so it came to pass - this is not hindsight - it was our half time discussion point and so another bad mistake by the Manager.
The ref was trigger happy and for once gave us nothing at all.
Mitrovic is a vile cheat as well - despicable to get a fellow pro sent off - albeit too many players do it nowadays.
He also fell over at the drop of a hat - quite pathetic.
An afternoon to forget but I am beginning to doubt PV's tactical acumen and his heart to make big decisions because it was obvious inside 15 mins that he had cocked up.
A worrying start to the rest of the season to be honest!

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 22 8.57am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Ayew hasn't been good enough for a minimum of 2 seasons now.. Neither has Ward yet these players start regularly.. The best defence that the Ayew supporters come up with on here is 'he wins a few free kicks every game'

Ayew and Ward wouldn't start in any other team in this league and I genuinely believe that's a fact.. Look at our bench today.. So weak and not a single player on it who makes us better or makes an impact... We've gone backwards since last season without a doubt.

We have actually attained 3 more pts this season than at the same juncture last season (15 games) so perhaps some will view this as progress !

I accept that we have been dire in the last 2 games but prior to the Nottm Forest encounter we had won 4 of our previous 6 games, however stats can sometimes not tell the entire story.

I do accept that the squad is short in terms of cover and loss of key players could prove catastrophic.We suffered through Guehi being absent, one can imagine the consequences if both Andersen and Guehi were unavailable ! Doucoure would also be a significant loss.

Edited by Willo (27 Dec 2022 9.01am)

 

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southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Dec 22 8.58am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I have slept on it but it doesn't get any better.
As soon as I saw the team sheet with no centre forward I knew it would be a long afternoon - dreadful error by the Manager when playing at home.
Fulham were on it from the off while we were slow and looked tired.
Tomkins had a half to forget and given that we were down to 10 men by half time he should have been subbed because he was one mistake away from a sending off and so it came to pass - this is not hindsight - it was our half time discussion point and so another bad mistake by the Manager.
The ref was trigger happy and for once gave us nothing at all.
Mitrovic is a vile cheat as well - despicable to get a fellow pro sent off - albeit too many players do it nowadays.
He also fell over at the drop of a hat - quite pathetic.
An afternoon to forget but I am beginning to doubt PV's tactical acumen and his heart to make big decisions because it was obvious inside 15 mins that he had cocked up.
A worrying start to the rest of the season to be honest!

The doubts have crept beyond the half way stage for me when it comes down to tactical acumen, also I'm wondering if the first season "magic touch" has worn off and I think the players know they are on an easy touch, hence the lackadaisical attitude and general lack of matchday fitness.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (27 Dec 2022 9.03am)

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 27 Dec 22 9.07am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

For god Sake wake up, Vieira is rubbish, he cant motivate, organise or see what is going on at the pitch, he has no record of doing anything, he has spent over 110m, he is addicted to the same formation, we have a great long passer from the back, but he chooses to play nobody who can hold the ball up, he needs to remember the team he played for and not try to clone Man City

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 27 Dec 22 9.18am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We have actually attained 3 more pts this season than at the same juncture last season (15 games) so perhaps some will view this as progress !

I accept that we have been dire in the last 2 games but prior to the Nottm Forest encounter we had won 4 of our previous 6 games, however stats can sometimes not tell the entire story.

I do accept that the squad is short in terms of cover and loss of key players could prove catastrophic.We suffered through Guehi being absent, one can imagine the consequences if both Andersen and Guehi were unavailable ! Doucoure would also be a significant loss.

Edited by Willo (27 Dec 2022 9.01am)

In 2020/21 we had 1 point less, with a complete shambles of a squad, but we had a football manager, not somebody pretending to be one, assisted by someone who has only managed Porthmadog, i ask you, FFS

 


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NE14T Flag 27 Dec 22 9.26am

After yesterdays performance, I’ve decided for mental health reasons to immediately stop supporting Palace. To fill the void, I’m going to join our local Morris Dancing Chapter for a life of dancing, beer-drinking frivolity and laughter.

 


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samprior Flag Hamburg 27 Dec 22 9.52am Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

A worrying display yesterday with no cohesion... even with 11 men there were gaps all over the pitch.

Tomkins looked incredibly rusty and it was painful to watch him only ever able to find Schlupp with a short pass who then in turn would look up to see Eze not moving surrounded by 2 or 3 players. On the odd occasion it did reach Eze he'd either misplace the pass or pass it back to Tomkins! This pattern led to Tomkins silly second yellow. Rather than change this approach which clearly wasn't working we just repeated it over and over again.

Olise was the only one yesterday who came out with any credit for me. He at least tried to take some responsibility, came looking for the ball and tried to make things happen.

As boring as it sounds I wouldn't be against playing

Doucouré Luka and Hughes together in the middle against Bournemouth as it'd least provide a bit of protection and bite compared to the ineffective Schlupp and Eze yesterday.

A lot of work to be done. A depressing performance after 4 weeks on the training ground.

 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 27 Dec 22 9.58am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

The doubts have crept beyond the half way stage for me when it comes down to tactical acumen, also I'm wondering if the first season "magic touch" has worn off and I think the players know they are on an easy touch, hence the lackadaisical attitude and general lack of matchday fitness.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (27 Dec 2022 9.03am)


Last seasons 'magic touch' was down to the incredible form and work of Connor Gallagher who made it all work, not Patrick Vieira.

 

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