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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 11 Jan 23 11.35am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Unfortunately I agree.

The European Super league has been proposed at least 3 or 4 times, every time UEFA announce they have defeated it only to quietly give in to the big clubs demands.

I agree too, but I wouldn't use the word "unfortunately". If anything, the opposite.

I think one thing we know about the modern world driven as it is by the rapid pace of change in all aspects of life over the past two decades is that things simply don't stay the same anymore and even valued traditions are easily replaced (examples: the "100" and T20 in cricket; the dominance of TV in football, and technology-driven change in almost every aspect of life).

It's true that the European Super League would rip up a century of tradition in how domestic football is run but I think we have to accept that this will happen and it's just another step in how the world's evolving and get on with it. You can't fight an incoming tide (especially when it's got more money than you do; there's no point barking at the moon).

Plus, with every disruptive change, there are always upsides. Getting not the big but more accurately the wealthy seven OUT of domestic football would, once everyone had come to terms with it, be a massive boost to the other 85 or so teams; it would render domestic football actually competitive again and make the top flight meaningful and worth watching for the first time in years, if we're honest. Sure, the absence of Liverpool, Man Utd., Man City, etc. would hurt on one level but it's not like you wouldn't be able to see those players in the Super League. And regardless, I support and want to watch Palace - and see us succeed. I don't much care who we're playing.

For me, the heart of any sport is competition and a league (in any sport) that isn't competitive at some point becomes no longer worth watching. The arrival of foreign money has ruined domestic football and if that money wants to go off into the sunset and play in its own, exclusive, self-built playground, I don't think there's anything unfortunate about the situation. Let the European Super League begin, ideally as soon as possible, and let the Football League return to the days when every team had a chance of glory, with players and football managers rather than accountants and bank managers deciding who finished top of the league table.

Edited by sydtheeagle (11 Jan 2023 11.36am)

 


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Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I agree too, but I wouldn't use the word "unfortunately". If anything, the opposite.

I think one thing we know about the modern world driven as it is by the rapid pace of change in all aspects of life over the past two decades is that things simply don't stay the same anymore and even valued traditions are easily replaced (examples: the "100" and T20 in cricket; the dominance of TV in football, and technology-driven change in almost every aspect of life).

It's true that the European Super League would rip up a century of tradition in how domestic football is run but I think we have to accept that this will happen and it's just another step in how the world's evolving and get on with it. You can't fight an incoming tide (especially when it's got more money than you do; there's no point barking at the moon).

Plus, with every disruptive change, there are always upsides. Getting not the big but more accurately the wealthy seven OUT of domestic football would, once everyone had come to terms with it, be a massive boost to the other 85 or so teams; it would render domestic football actually competitive again and make the top flight meaningful and worth watching for the first time in years, if we're honest. Sure, the absence of Liverpool, Man Utd., Man City, etc. would hurt on one level but it's not like you wouldn't be able to see those players in the Super League. And regardless, I support and want to watch Palace - and see us succeed. I don't much care who we're playing.

For me, the heart of any sport is competition and a league (in any sport) that isn't competitive at some point becomes no longer worth watching. The arrival of foreign money has ruined domestic football and if that money wants to go off into the sunset and play in its own, exclusive, self-built playground, I don't think there's anything unfortunate about the situation. Let the European Super League begin, ideally as soon as possible, and let the Football League return to the days when every team had a chance of glory, with players and football managers rather than accountants and bank managers deciding who finished top of the league table.

Edited by sydtheeagle (11 Jan 2023 11.36am)


Pleased to learn that I'm not the only one who thinks like this. The Super 7, of course, will want their cake and eat it by trying to wangle spots in the football league for their B teams, but they shouldn't be allowed in.

I do wonder how long a European Super League would retain the interest of their clubs fans and football fans more generally. It will only be the wealthy fans who could afford literally to follow their team round Europe season in and season out. I suppose we'll see an increasing number of international fans attending matches whilst the domestic ones stick mainly to home games.

There is also the question of the FA Cup. The Super 7 would want to be allowed to compete, but given that they won't be playing in a domestic league, presumably, they wouldn't be allowed to.

I wonder how long a European Super League would survive, or what it would eventually morph into.

Just bring it on!

 

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Originally posted by doombear

Pleased to learn that I'm not the only one who thinks like this. The Super 7, of course, will want their cake and eat it by trying to wangle spots in the football league for their B teams, but they shouldn't be allowed in.

I do wonder how long a European Super League would retain the interest of their clubs fans and football fans more generally. It will only be the wealthy fans who could afford literally to follow their team round Europe season in and season out. I suppose we'll see an increasing number of international fans attending matches whilst the domestic ones stick mainly to home games.

There is also the question of the FA Cup. The Super 7 would want to be allowed to compete, but given that they won't be playing in a domestic league, presumably, they wouldn't be allowed to.

I wonder how long a European Super League would survive, or what it would eventually morph into.

Just bring it on!

Excellent points, Doombear. For my money:

Big 7 B teams should NOT be allowed to compete in the domestic league, full stop. Getting your own way with regard to the European League is fine, but it comes at a price.

With regard to seeing foreign fans attending European League matches, I wouldn't be surprised if they followed the NFL model and took matches to the fans rather than fans coming to matches. So I think it's quite possible a certain number of games a year would be played in neutral venues; in Asia, North America, the Middle East etc. The league will be founded on the pursuit of money; it'll go where the money is.

With regard to the FA Cup, I'd actually be happy for the European Super League teams to be let into their domestic cup competitions (but not leagues, as I said above). It'd retain a small element of tradition without risking their dominating every aspect of domestic football.

 


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Assuming a Super league ( in any format) comes along -
What do you think will happen to the TV money ? for sure TV channels will be bidding to host Super League games, how much interest remains for them in what would become tier 2 football would be interesting to see - I suppose how much money gets filtered down to anyone below super league status would probably depend upon if super league was a format within the existing authorities or a breakaway group -

How would clubs (not in this super 7) continue to fund players contracts where the contract was entered into prior to any Super League formation & the contract amount & players salary was based upon the club receiving loads a money TV revenue - maybe clubs should start to put some kind of safety net in place to cover themselves if the fundamentals of the current operating model change

 

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Just remembered ths is a thread about Danny Ings likely transfer ( or not) perhaps the Super League posts should be moved to their own thread ?

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 11 Jan 23 3.42pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

No matter what striker we may or may not get in, if they dont get the service, they wont score, so, all hypothetical atm.

This with knobs on !
Been saying this for years.

Even that young Norwegian banging them in for City would be stymied by having to do what Edouard/Mateta manfully do in search of an opening.

We have never replaced Michael Hughes, Barry Bannon or Yohan Cabaye.

 

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Originally posted by Uphill

We have never replaced Barry Bannon

I just don't get this myth of Barry Bannan. He was with us for two years and played in only 22 games (around a quarter of the total) during that time. He contributed precisely one goal and one assist in those games. He was a marginal, fringe player who made no real impact at all. Everyone fell in love with the idea of Barry Bannan, but the reality on the pitch, as at Villa before he came to us, is that he simply wasn't a top-flight player as, indeed, time has now proved. There's a reason he plies his trade in League One. I'd say we've very much replaced Barry Bannan since he left, mainly with much better players than he ever was.

Edited by sydtheeagle (11 Jan 2023 4.00pm)

 


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Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I just don't get this myth of Barry Bannan. He was with us for two years and played in only 22 games (around a quarter of the total) during that time. He contributed precisely one goal and one assist in those games. He was a marginal, fringe player who made no real impact at all. Everyone fell in love with the idea of Barry Bannan, but the reality on the pitch, as at Villa before he came to us, is that he simply wasn't a top-flight player as, indeed, time has now proved. There's a reason he plies his trade in League One. I'd say we've very much replaced Barry Bannan since he left, mainly with much better players than he ever was.

Edited by sydtheeagle (11 Jan 2023 4.00pm)

Barry Bannan has played 86 games in the PL.
He has spent the majority of career ploughing his furrow in the Championship and more recently in League 1 with Sheff Wed.

I am in agreement with SydTheEagle apropos his impact at our club.

Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2023 4.24pm)

 

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I don't know about you lot but I'm still waiting in the car park for Nugent to turn up.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't know about you lot but I'm still waiting in the car park for Nugent to turn up.

The good news is, you probably won't have to wait for too much longer. Right now, he's our most likely signing in the window; he's cheap and hasn't scored a goal in years. That fits what the board are looking for.

 


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Originally posted by sydtheeagle

The good news is, you probably won't have to wait for too much longer. Right now, he's our most likely signing in the window; he's cheap and hasn't scored a goal in years. That fits what the board are looking for.

His last goal was in April 2021.

 

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Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I agree too, but I wouldn't use the word "unfortunately". If anything, the opposite.

I think one thing we know about the modern world driven as it is by the rapid pace of change in all aspects of life over the past two decades is that things simply don't stay the same anymore and even valued traditions are easily replaced (examples: the "100" and T20 in cricket; the dominance of TV in football, and technology-driven change in almost every aspect of life).

It's true that the European Super League would rip up a century of tradition in how domestic football is run but I think we have to accept that this will happen and it's just another step in how the world's evolving and get on with it. You can't fight an incoming tide (especially when it's got more money than you do; there's no point barking at the moon).

Plus, with every disruptive change, there are always upsides. Getting not the big but more accurately the wealthy seven OUT of domestic football would, once everyone had come to terms with it, be a massive boost to the other 85 or so teams; it would render domestic football actually competitive again and make the top flight meaningful and worth watching for the first time in years, if we're honest. Sure, the absence of Liverpool, Man Utd., Man City, etc. would hurt on one level but it's not like you wouldn't be able to see those players in the Super League. And regardless, I support and want to watch Palace - and see us succeed. I don't much care who we're playing.

For me, the heart of any sport is competition and a league (in any sport) that isn't competitive at some point becomes no longer worth watching. The arrival of foreign money has ruined domestic football and if that money wants to go off into the sunset and play in its own, exclusive, self-built playground, I don't think there's anything unfortunate about the situation. Let the European Super League begin, ideally as soon as possible, and let the Football League return to the days when every team had a chance of glory, with players and football managers rather than accountants and bank managers deciding who finished top of the league table.

Edited by sydtheeagle (11 Jan 2023 11.36am)

Todd Boehly and the like, have every intention of destroying domestic football as we know it. It will be all razzamatazz, 4 quarters, no promotion or relegation. I doubt though, the NFL draft system would be introduced! Put them with the mega rich Arabs and we, mere mortal football fans, will have to like it or lump it

Your 4th paragraph is interesting. I, too, hope they go and give others a chance to win trophies. Unfortunately with the going, so will a vast amount of money, together with no European qualifications

 

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