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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

or have they lost her by starting her with an unmanageable workload which made her so stressed she had to seek medical help?

TBF she did not say this and she knew when she started she would be busy but possibly. However, her NHS GP had advised her to go back 3 days a week, which does not sound unreasonable. However this was not deemed acceptable and therefore the NHS has lost a good worker. If they wonít take a GPís advice and possibly made an unlawful decision, you canít blame that on anyone other than the management
, surely?

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag Yesterday 8.30pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by YT


Just out of interest, what has the government (and I assume you mean the current government) done wrong, and what would you have done differently if you had been in charge?

More money (compare The last Labour government's year-on-year investment to that of the Tories)

A drive to bring back many of the nurses and doctors that left after Brexit. (that's how 'oven ready' it was). Before Brexit, I would have prepared us for the consequences by, perhaps, arranging for a 'quota' of 'guest-workers to service the NHS rather than leave a gaping hole.

A drive to bring back the foreign workers that worked in social care/care homes before Brexit (that's how 'oven ready' it was). At least the care homes would have enough staff to take the elderly as they are fit to leave hospital, freeing beds for others, freeing ambulances to get on with emergency calls instead of being parked in A&E waiting bays. Before Brexit, to repeat, I would have prepared us for the consequences by, perhaps, arranging for a 'quota' of 'guest-workers to service the NHS rather than leave a gaping hole. this aspect was completely overlooked and unplanned for by the Eton Mess and his cronies.

A massive drive to encourage young people to join the medical and auxiliary staff. To do this, their wages and workload will have to be different to what they are now.

A massive shift away from management (efficiency, my arse) to clinicians.

Before anyone bleats about how we'll afford it, it's about time the multi-nationals all paid a proper rate of tax for making profits from British people, for a start. Stop the loopholes that allow them to exploit 'tax avoidance'. For a start.

Here's me, I'm only a civilian. It's up to the politicians to sort out ways and means.

During the last Con party conference, Sajid Javid gave a speech about no such thing as society, only the individual and the family (Thatcher quote, all you Maggie -lovers will rejoice in) after which he added (almost as a sneaky aside) that we are going to have to take responsibility for our own health: a shot across the bows, a clear indicator of what the neo-liberal mindset of the Conservatives really want: private healthcare for all and getting rid of the NHS. (Their American chums, are gnashing their teeth, salivating, on the sidelines, waiting to exploit the hefty windfall in contracts and $.)

Privatisation.

Come on you lot: come clean. How many of you on here agree with that sentiment?

Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 8.42pm)

 

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Originally posted by Glazier#1

More money (compare The last Labour government's year-on-year investment to that of the Tories)

A drive to bring back many of the nurses and doctors that left after Brexit. (that's how 'oven ready' it was). Before Brexit, I would have prepared us for the consequences by, perhaps, arranging for a 'quota' of 'guest-workers to service the NHS rather than leave a gaping hole.

A drive to bring back the foreign workers that worked in social care/care homes before Brexit (that's how 'oven ready' it was). At least the care homes would have enough staff to take the elderly as they are fit to leave hospital, freeing beds for others, freeing ambulances to get on with emergency calls instead of being parked in A&E waiting bays. Before Brexit, to repeat, I would have prepared us for the consequences by, perhaps, arranging for a 'quota' of 'guest-workers to service the NHS rather than leave a gaping hole. this aspect was completely overlooked and unplanned for by the Eton Mess and his cronies.

A massive drive to encourage young people to join the medical and auxiliary staff. To do this, their wages and workload will have to be different to what they are now.

A massive shift away from management (efficiency, my arse) to clinicians.

Before anyone bleats about how we'll afford it, it's about time the multi-nationals all paid a proper rate of tax for making profits from British people, for a start. Stop the loopholes that allow them to exploit 'tax avoidance'. For a start.

Here's me, I'm only a civilian. It's up to the politicians to sort out ways and means.

During the last Con party conference, Sajid Javid gave a speech about no such thing as society, only the individual and the family (Thatcher quote, all you Maggie -lovers will rejoice in) after which he added (almost as a sneaky aside) that we are going to have to take responsibility for our own health: a shot across the bows, a clear indicator of what the neo-liberal mindset of the Conservatives really want: private healthcare for all and getting rid of the NHS. (Their American chums, are gnashing their teeth, salivating, on the sidelines, waiting to exploit the hefty windfall in contracts and $.)

Privatisation.

Come on you lot: come clean. How many of you on here agree with that sentiment?

Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 8.42pm)

As a matter of interest do you know how many doctors, nurses and care workers left because of Brexit? I would be interested to see the figures

 

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Originally posted by Glazier#1

The thing is, ME, that people might say what you have just written but surely the end responsibility must be the government: what are you supposed to do if you keep telling them about the state of the service and they keep ignoring you for years?

The government's actions have ensured that we have blocked beds, amblances caught waiting outside A&E and people dying as a result.

Surely they need to be held to account as the prime instigators of the crisis?

Don't shoot the messenger.

Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 2.31pm)

Hmg employ people to run their services. Now that state workers are untouchable how do they make the changes and employ better leaders. You only have to wonder if the recent bullying claims about ministers is more about workers being crap and told so than actual bullying.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Hmg employ people to run their services. Now that state workers are untouchable how do they make the changes and employ better leaders. You only have to wonder if the recent bullying claims about ministers is more about workers being crap and told so than actual bullying.

I suspect it could well have been ministers telling the senior management they are crap.
As I have said before, in my experience, many senior managers switch from department to department, to enhance their own careers, making changes when they have very little knowledge of how each department operates and have usually left before the fallout hits the fan!

 

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