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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 19 Jan 23 11.35am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

All for home drinking.

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 06 Feb 23 10.10am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The looney left run everything.

Just sit back and watch the decline amid the ever increasing neuroticism.

Sometimes, Stirling, you are the greatest of all comedy acts.

That made me laugh out loud.

Bless you for cheering up my morning.

 

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View humber eagle's Profile humber eagle Flag hull 06 Feb 23 12.20pm Send a Private Message to humber eagle Add humber eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

"If nobody brought cakes into the office, I would not eat cakes."

If you employ the logic and mantra of: 'I will absolutely eat everything available to me' then what is in the office is the least of your health and dietary concerns.

Someone should bring a treadmill and a dumbbell rack in and see if it has the same effect on her.

Edited by Nicholas91 (18 Jan 2023 3.51pm)

Or "spotted Dick" a firm favourite.

 


In my day, a Selfie was what you had when the wife didn't put out.

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 06 Feb 23 7.46pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Yes, then we can sack half the social system employees including doctors, nurses and benefit office workers as they will have a lot less patients and need to not work in the general arena of people and invest the money in immigrant housing!
The nhs gets plenty of money; it just wastes it.
Itís coming up for budget review time. So whatís happening; a company close to me has had loads of quotes from letís say nhs environments sent back and asked for the cost to be doubled then they are approved, so the budget isnít affected for next year.
Absolute joke of a political football which needs radically altering to get more bang for the buck. Ffs we are paying for it!

Hey, Cry, guess what.

My turn to say 'Bollu x'

You are a comedy stand-up, my man.

You do make me laugh.

You and Stirling are the perfect double act.


Haha.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Feb 23 9.38pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Hey, Cry, guess what.

My turn to say 'Bollu x'

You are a comedy stand-up, my man.

You do make me laugh.

You and Stirling are the perfect double act.


Haha.

Ask the posters on here who have or do work in and around the nhs. Iím not sure what you class as waste tbh.

Edited by cryrst (06 Feb 2023 9.40pm)

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag Yesterday 6.08am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend


My wife's a nurse and has been for over 30 years.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England Yesterday 6.24am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1


My wife's a nurse and has been for over 30 years.

Ok, thank her for her service please but I doubt she does anything other than caring for people. With respect what would she know about the waste on the NHS ?
Btw is her pension going to absolutely brilliant, try to be honest with that answer and it sort of answers why their pay is lower than in the private sector.

Edited by cryrst (07 Feb 2023 6.26am)

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag Yesterday 7.35am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Ok, thank her for her service please but I doubt she does anything other than caring for people. With respect what would she know about the waste on the NHS ?
Btw is her pension going to absolutely brilliant, try to be honest with that answer and it sort of answers why their pay is lower than in the private sector.

Edited by cryrst (07 Feb 2023 6.26am)

Actually, she's a stroke early discharge team leader and is only too aware of the machinations of the NHS.

By the way, I've no idea what pension she will receive, let alone if it will be 'brilliant' (loose term).

Most acute is the appointment of non-clinical mangers. At the same time the crippling shrinkage of staff appointments to actually serve her patients in the community: less and less staff, increasing workload of cases and a stagnation in wages.


She had a member of her team that had been doing the job with her for years who left (stress) and when she tried to advertise the post, management told her 'there is no post'. Yet still the caseload increases.

I have had to tell my wife to take time out recently or she would have a breakdown. She's back now but tells me that so many of her colleagues, many of whom have served the NHS for a long time, are talking to her with tears behind their eyes.

With respect, Cry, we both know that Conservative thinking wants, finally, to turn to private medicine and all us 'individuals' taking out private health insurance. I'm guessing, too, that your mindset would be similar.

Am I wrong?

Also, all this comparing with the private sector: a race to the bottom is the phrase. Also predicated on the jealousy you accuse the left of having against those with money.

By the way, again, if the pension rights, in your opinion are so great and even out the poor wages, why is the NHS hemorrhaging staff at such an alarming rate?

Not good at all imo.


Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 7.37am)

Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 7.41am)

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag Yesterday 7.38am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I used to work a lot for the NHS and I suspect it has only got worse since then.
The money I saw go down the pan was incredible and very sad.
Too many people at the top who care about them and theirs and not the patients and the clinical staff.
The split between management and clinical staff needs to change from the 50/50 it is now to 70/30 in favour of boots on the ground.
Until it does the NHS has no chance and it will continue to spunk money by the second instead of spending it wisely.
Glazier - if your wife is a nurse then she will see it every day and must wonder what is going to happen next.
I feel sorry for the nurses and other clinical staff and believe they should be trained differently, paid more money and so on.
The management need to be savagely cut and asap.

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag Yesterday 7.44am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

And the management have been put in place, ironically, to achieve more 'efficiency' (Tory buzzword).

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag Yesterday 8.05am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Glazier - I saw it going on 20+ years ago.
I genuinely believe that Major's government started it but that Blair really pushed getting more management in place and succeeded.
The Tories have had a chance to change it but they haven't - in fact it has probably got worse again.
someone needs to have the balls to sort it out.
It will take ten years but if it isn't done I think it will break completely within 5 years - not that it isn't already nearly there.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag Yesterday 8.08am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I believe that Nurses pensions are set at 15% top up on salary - why they deserve less than Teachers (23.68%) I have no idea - doesn't seem right to me!

 

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